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wariomona
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
drae wrote:
Sorry for that. I’m in a weird mood Razz.


Yes, in a very weird mood.

Anyway, I don't think violence in kids is caused by anime/movies/games. Like you said I think just peoples imaginations are what causes it all.

But I hate hentai, rape should NEVER be in any form of media EVER! It's DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!! and the scary thing about it is that THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ENJOY CREATING/WATCHING IT!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Personally, i believe anime has not rotted minds, but has basically changed one person's perspective on their surroundings and life.

I mean, so much has happened in this past decade, and everything is now shown to us so straight up (just look at those drink driving ads). It is because of this up frontness with issues that really has meant that after a while, we really dont care about it any more. Once you've seen images and heard stories of crashes and everything, you just start really losing the care factor...Well thats my view of why no one really cares highly about disasters and whatnot, it's because it's all happened so many times before and it's all we hear, so we just lose interest.

As for anime's involvement in this, all i can say is it has only changed our perspective of everything, not rotted it. After watching things like Lain and Evangeleon, you really never take things so simply from then on. When you watch the more realistic shows like Fruits Baskets, you really cherish things like memories and what ever you do. Anime hasn't gone and made us dumbfounded by events, thats what all this over terrifying society has done in the last decade, Anime has merely made us more aware of what we do and how we do it
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wariomona wrote:
But I hate hentai, rape should NEVER be in any form of media EVER! It's DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!! and the scary thing about it is that THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ENJOY CREATING/WATCHING IT!

Don't over generalise here. Not all Hentai depicts so called "rape" scenes.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah, damn it I don't know. I'm not phased by a great many things because of Anime but... it really doesn't bother me too much because most of those things just don't happen in real life. I'm appropriately freaked out by real life violence.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wtf is \l\? Lost me there ...

Ok take this for example. I just did a search for "anime" on Alta vista image search, and 8 of the first 20 images were Hentai. I admit I dont have an adult filter on, but wow. You dont think anime is in the least bit to brain rotting? Considering how many anime fans are actually into hentai as well and how those 2 almost just seem to go together. I dont know if I am making any sence because it's hard to my mind into words.

My sister just found out she is pregnant recently. We are expecting a baby girl ^_^....which is really really cool because i've never had alittle sister, so i'm stoked. I am really really looking forward to making her a big anime fan but I worry. What say one of her favorite anime become Card Captors and she goes on the net by herself to search for nice Sakura images....do you have any idea how much damaging material there is on Card Captors? Lets say she is 10 yrs old and searching the net for images of her 10yr old hero Sakura, and finds panty flashing and so forth. I hate to think what that might do to her. And then she reads the manga with like, I think Card Captors has lesbian 10yr olds in it doesn't it? Or something like that.

I love anime, but I am wondering this alot latly because we are expectiong another kid in the house, and I would really like to get her into anime when she is older so we have something in common, but am worried how to go about it, or weather I should. I guess if it was a boy we were expecting I wouldn't be so protective...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Concerning your sisters daughter (congrats on you for being an Uncle, and congrats to your sister), I’d be more interested in keeping her away from regular porn sites with her favourite “actors or actresses” then the hentai. If you’re worried about the sites she goes to, obtain a parent filter or the more extreme route of only allowing access to specific sites. However, I’d say the thing you should be MOST worried about, though, is her friends. It’s really one of the only things you don’t have any control over, and believe it or not it’s her friends which will be the most influencing factor over her life. So if she makes a bad choice in friends…

About the hentai comments… they’re really unjustified. Do you know how much hentai is out there compared to regular porn? WOW!!! So considering how many regular people are into porn… that would mean there are a lot of peoples brains “rotting” out there for no reason Razz.

That cardcaptor manga, the lesbian stuff… there’s nothing sexual in it, and it’s extremely subtle as well. Unless you’re one of those people that think homosexual relationships are “unnatural”, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it. My sister has the cardcaptor sakura manga and they are very mild. Very very mild. Infact the “lesbian” stuff is really more implied than anything else. The manga is completely safe. Very very safe. You couldn't get any safer.

What is this brain rotting you seem so fond of? Am I any dumber for watching Anime? Nup. Am I any weirder? Nup (I had already taken weird to new boundaries way before I was interested in anime Very Happy). Seeing as you (for some reason) have linked hentai or porn as an example of someone’s brain rotting, consider this. If there was no porn on the internet what would people do? They’d read erotic stories. But what happens if there were no erotic stories? That’s easy, they’d picture nice ladies (or guys) that they’ve seen during the day/week/month and fantasize about that. You can’t even blame this on tv, or the movies, because erotic stories have been around since people could write or were passed down by word of mouth a long time before that! So people were like this a long time before porn was available on the internet or whatever. So if an interest in porn really is an example of “a rotting brain”, then people’s brains have been “rotten” for a long time before the outbreak of anime, movies or even TV. Anime is just as safe/dangerous as anything else. It's not anything radical, just a different medium for which stories are told, that is all.

A parting fact for you, kind of as a welcome to Unclehoood or whatever you call it. By the age of 15 over a quarter of all people have already had sex (boys and girls, they’re pretty much the same), 10% before the age of 13, and the number is increasing… and these are OLD statistics. Think about it, you have 4 kids, statistically atleast 1 in 4 will have sex before 15. It’s probably closer to 1 in 3 now. So by the time your niece hits thirteen or fifteen the chances of your niece already having sex will be...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Repeating what everyone said i'm sure it's a combination of most things that lead to you being desensitized to the world.

I tend not to associate disgusting violent themes in anime with real life violence mainly becuase I do not make the connection between animation and reality in that regard.

Hentai definatly touches on a lot of mind warping themes. Some of the stuff I've seen would be completly disturbing if you were to see it in real life and I think seeing it in hentai only de-sensitizes you to seeing it in that medium. That is to say if you were to see someone force a girl to drink acid until her skin could be removed and worn as a suit, and these people were in the very same room with you, it would totally have you freaked. I think what makes this worse is that it is indeed possible someone may attempt some bizare sexual act like this in real life.

I think non violent sexual themes are more likely to effect someones way of thinking in real life. The way many females are portrayed in anime is as someones perception of what is 'perfect.' Personally after watching many harem anime I have found that there is usually one girl that I particularly like over the others and each girl in each series has similar traits. In a way it has made me think at times that you should expect to see girls like this although I have a firm enough grip on reality to know otherwise.

On a lighter side Xpress Train is reasonably funny hentai where a club gropes women on trains. The message this puts across is that women ride trains waiting to be felt up by strangers. This kind of theme did not phase me at all, I was probably already desensitzed to it. I am sure there are people out there who would see it and thing it was terrible. As it is non violent (well in this case anyway) I would probably be desensitized in real life to it as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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evaunit01 wrote:
Society has degraded so much that violence and death are more socially acceptable that sex or nudity, WHAT THE HELL??! Daily I see parents who dont mind thier kids seeing a violent movie, but god forbid it should have a flash of tits or a sex scene. Our world has gone down the crapper so far that something natural is a bigger tabboo, than our worlds biggest problem...The fact is, if violence to us is more natural than sex then we are a doomed moronic species.

That is very correct. Some of the stuff (shows, toys, games, whatever) aimed at kids (DBZ is a most classic example) is full of, or encourages, violence, fighting and even death. It is even more interesting, and strangely funny, that parents do not want their children to behave like this, but show it to them anyway (makes me very much glad I don't have children).

After reading what drae had to say ("Society's typical response to violent kids". I applaud that, by the way), I guess I could have thought a bit more before adding my reply Embarassed ...

Yes, there is violence everywhere we look. Yes, TV does display most of this violence. Yes, TV is a major contributor to upbringing children (sad but true). Even without TV, toys, games etc though, children are still going to be violent (says a lot about humanity).

As for anime rotting our brains, no. If anime rots our brains, then any form of entertainment rots our brains, because that is simply what anime is.

I'm still glad I don't have children.

Pug_Valheru wrote:
My sister just found out she is pregnant recently. We are expecting a baby girl ^_^....which is really really cool because i've never had alittle sister, so i'm stoked. I am really really looking forward to making her a big anime fan but I worry. What say one of her favorite anime become Card Captors and she goes on the net by herself to search for nice Sakura images....do you have any idea how much damaging material there is on Card Captors? Lets say she is 10 yrs old and searching the net for images of her 10yr old hero Sakura, and finds panty flashing and so forth. I hate to think what that might do to her. And then she reads the manga with like, I think Card Captors has lesbian 10yr olds in it doesn't it? Or something like that.

Congratulations on becoming an uncle. You just have to be very careful about what you show the girl. Perform your searches beforehand, write down some of the less...um...influential sites so that you know she is getting kid-friendly material. I suppose the only advice is to think and research.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
drae wrote:

evaunit01 wrote:
but god forbid it should have a flash of tits or a sex scene

So what you’re saying is that once sex and titties are accepted on a social level like violence and killing, then our society will be saved Razz.


Not at all, I'm just saying that there is something wrong when sex, a natural thing that happens everyday (and should), is portrayed as doing something dirty and wrong, whereas violence (which also happens everyday, but shouldnt) is just a part of life, if not the centre of alot of entertainment. I dunno, I'm probably wrong, but I just see it as step in the wrong direction for our society.

drae wrote:

evaunit01 wrote:
Society has degraded so much that violence and death are more socially acceptable that sex or nudity

However you seem to think that society’s acceptance of violence is a modern thing, it’s not. I read a report long ago about how over the last 2 or 3 centuries society’s crime, and murder rate, have been pretty low compared to what they have been. It’s actually modern society that has been stating that it’s unacceptable for murder to be used as a solution to problems. I mean looking at the past you had blood feuds between families, you had murder being an acceptable way to rise up the ranks in so and so business, best way to deal with competitors was to kill them off, public torture and execution was used not only as a deterrent but for entertainment to the rich families and who could forget the gladiators dueling to the death for people’s enjoyment. So to say that Society has DEGRADED to the point where violence is acceptable is false. Violence has always been an accepted part of society and I really challenge you to name some time periods and proof to state otherwise.


Woah woah woah, I never meant that it is the sole reason, I just meant for a world that claims to want peace, it is a step in the wrong direction. I'm sorry, I'm not real good at expressing what I mean. I know that the violence is nothing today compared to the way it was, I mean hell, the church has been doing the same thing as the media for years, the first testament is a damn violent (and excellent) book, yet they seem to send the message out the sex is somewhat sinful for anything other than reproduction. But to compare modern society to that time, is looking in the wrong direction entirely, if people want a peaceful world, then we must move forward instead of looking at the past and going "meh, at least we arent like those guys".

I never said the media was entirely to blame, again I'm sorry im bad at expressing what i mean, I'm just saying it isn't helping to bring up a world of children whos ideals are that violence is ok but sex is wrong and dirty.

I'm probably wrong though, so feel free to tear me a new one!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think no, and that you're all going a little bit over the top.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
congrats on becoming uncle

and i don't think that anyone is going overboard at all. i find that anime does rot your mind a bit due to excessive violence and alot of echii and why it obviously desensitse people is purely the violence and that we have grown acoustemed to. so violence = meh in reality or funny if you find violence funny in shows and so forth. now to the perversion part. anime i think also makes pervs and draws pervs. anime images of girls are always going to look good or hot depending on who is viewing it right, the images are only goin to look bad if the artist intentionally makes them look ugly and stuff and what also makes/draws pervs is because there is no limitation to what can be put into anime so alot of the fantasies of pervs are more or less in anime/hentai.
as for hentai on the net and your neice looking for sakura cardcaptor images and finding her with a staff up her arse or being boned by lee do a little websearch and block some site that you find offensive(if you can that is) or find some sites and give it to her make sure its always being updated so that she won't get bored of the site.

i find www.minitokyo.net to have some good images and its also set into different catergories(so there is some echii) but its always being updated with new images.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it just depends on the individual, some people may be affected by anime & hentai but most people don't. I do enjoy action movies and martial arts movies where there's violence and killing and such but it does not reflect how I would feel in real life. For example, I was watching the news and the story about the 3 security guys in Baghdad getting shot while they shot dead buy machine guns while heading to the airport. I felt sad for the families of those men and angry at those people who shot them. The three guys weren't even soldiers. I also felt really sad when I heard that five of the nine australian drug smugglers might be sentenced to death via firing squad. I might be a little biased because of htem being Australian and all but I thought the sentencing shouldn't be death, I personally don't agree with capital punishment.
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