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chinoonihc
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: Appleseed

I was wondering if anyone knew when Appleseed the movie is coming out in australia? It came out on the 10 of may in usa so i reckon it wont be here till july/august.

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject:

A theatrical run is expected later this year. Followed usually around 3-4 months later by the DVD release. _________________ Screening Room+ Madman National Cosplay Championship Madman's Helpful Help Page! www.twitter.com/animemadman <-Tweet us!

chinoonihc
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject:

sic ive been waiting for along time this.

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject:

there is a new Appleseed? Or is this the same one from like "forever" ago? Might ask Google. See what it has to say.. _________________ SMUDGED INC PRESENTS: Hold On To Your Lunch Money! School Spirit - the Web Comic

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject:

HeDanny wrote:

there is a new Appleseed? Or is this the same one from like "forever" ago?

Might ask Google. See what it has to say..

Its a new one!! Athough i loved the old one, this one looks so good with the animation improving quite alot! Will the original ever get a DVD release here?
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject:

Oddly enough, my DVD of this arrived today. The Briaeros figure is AWESOME. _________________ XBL: Tamaaya \| PSN: Stormo \| Manifest I have a big gun I took it from my lord sick with justice I just want to feel you

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject:

appleseeds naturaly contain arsnick.

HeDanny
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject:

<- is happy Looks like the Appleseed I remember was an OVA from 1988. A new one was made last year, so WoHoo! this is obviously the one going to theatres later in the year here. Apparently (the internet said so, so it must be true) there are plans for an AppleSeed 2, as well as an Appleseed TV. Looking forward to all of this with much looking-forward-to-ness. So, with the ball rolling in the appleseed world again, any chance of getting the 1988 OAV out on DVD? You know.. to sort of tie in with the new stuff? Stormin, pls let us know your impressions when U get to watch that DVD you got ok Actually, would not mind a piccy of the toy either, if you would be so kind! _________________ SMUDGED INC PRESENTS: Hold On To Your Lunch Money! School Spirit - the Web Comic

GarethB
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:30 am Post subject:

HeDanny wrote:

<- is happy

Looks like the Appleseed I remember was an OVA from 1988. A new one was made last year, so WoHoo! this is obviously the one going to theatres later in the year here. Apparently (the internet said so, so it must be true) there are plans for an AppleSeed 2, as well as an Appleseed TV.

Looking forward to all of this with much looking-forward-to-ness.

So, with the ball rolling in the appleseed world again, any chance of getting the 1988 OAV out on DVD? You know.. to sort of tie in with the new stuff?

Stormin, pls let us know your impressions when U get to watch that DVD you got ok Smile

Actually, would not mind a piccy of the toy either, if you would be so kind! Smile

I bought an R1 import copy of it and watched it last weekend. I also have the full set of Appleseed manga to compare it to. I've never seen the 80's OAV so I can't comment on that version at all.

The manga is in four volumes and the new Appleseed movie basically covers the first two volumes of the manga, so there's definately material available for a sequal. Whether there will actually be a sequal is another matter entirely.

The movie plot has some significant changes in it compared to the manga. I won't spoil but some of the principal characters in the movie either don't exist in the manga or have very different roles when comparing the movie to the manga. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, how many movie adaptations of books/manga stay 100% acurate? Not many.

The one issue of the movie that I disliked the most wasn't plot related, it was the way the characters look. The characters were all rendered in 3D, but then they were coloured/shaded/textured to try to look more like 2D, and in many scenes the colouring/shading/texturing of the characters looks very odd and to my eye out of place, especially skintones and the textures of clothing. Here's a link to a review with screenshots. Have a look at the skintones and shadow shading of the characters, particularly Deunan's face in the third pic. http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57174

I realise the production crew weren't trying to go for pseudo-realism like Final Fantasy - The Spirits Within tried to, I can accept semi-3D characters in fully 3D backgrounds, but a bit more attention to detail with the colouring/shading of the characters in Appleseed would have helped them sit much more convincingly within the 3D backgrounds.

I suppose I'm really just nitpicking here. All things considered I enjoyed Appleseed enourmously. If they don't do a sequal to cover the remainder of the Appleseed manga, I'd like to see Orion done instead. Orion is another work by the Appleseed and Ghost in the Shell creator, Shirow Masamune.

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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject:

coldfire wrote:

appleseeds naturaly contain arsnick.

Cyanide. Arsenic is an element [not particularly common one]; cyanide is a fairly common carbon-nitrogen radical [CN].

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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject:

So, WIll the original Appleseed OVa ever be released on DVD....... I have it on VHS, but its hardly watchable these days cause its so old!! _________________ Are you a confused adolescent desperately seeking acceptance from an undifferentiated ego mass that demands conformity?

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Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 2:53 am Post subject:

GarethB wrote:

The one issue of the movie that I disliked the most wasn't plot related, it was the way the characters look. The characters were all rendered in 3D, but then they were coloured/shaded/textured to try to look more like 2D, and in many scenes the colouring/shading/texturing of the characters looks very odd and to my eye out of place, especially skintones and the textures of clothing. Here's a link to a review with screenshots. Have a look at the skintones and shadow shading of the characters, particularly Deunan's face in the third pic. http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57174

I watched the R2 version that my friend imported from Japan. As I'm not a big fan of Appleseed, I can't compare this movie with any of the previous ones. When the anime started, I thought it was GITS 2. The 3D background was on par with GITS 2.

But as GarethB said, the characters do look a bit "odd". The characters don't seem to fit in with the surrounding background. But other than that, I thought the anime was okay. But as I said, I'm not a fan of Appleseed. Maybe Appleseed fans will get more out of it.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:

HeDanny wrote:

Stormin, pls let us know your impressions when U get to watch that DVD you got ok Smile

Actually, would not mind a piccy of the toy either, if you would be so kind! Smile

I've seen the film before, and it's pretty good. I've never read the manga (shame on me), though, so I can't make that comparison.

I love the cel-shaded style they use in this... it's similar to Platonic Chain, if you're familiar with that. The mecha CG is probably the best ever in an anime. The film has a bangin' OST, too.

My only complaint is that the whole package came in one of those sealed plastic packages that you have to physically destroy to get inside (like what XBox controllers and PS2 memory cards come in).
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:

Nargun wrote:

coldfire wrote:

appleseeds naturaly contain arsnick.

Cyanide. Arsenic is an element [not particularly common one]; cyanide is a fairly common carbon-nitrogen radical [CN].

pick pick pick.
Any way i havent read or seen this but it looks really cool.

Samurai Dan
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:

Just saw this movie. Wow. Looks beautiful and had a great story. You gotta check this flick out.

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject:

I actually have it now and love it, i hired the old movie and loved it as well. _________________ Even if their eyes are scorched.Even if their arms are writhing, they will never stop marching head,guided by the will'o the wisp.They will will their way and shoot at point-blak distance,the footsteps that have thrown life away, the trigger that brings death.,the 901 Anti-Tank-Trooper.

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:05 am Post subject:

This movie rocked my socks right off my feet. It was that good. I've read the old manga, relased in the early 90's by Dark Horse, so I looked forward to the new release. The metal case Madman released is brilliant, and I wouldn't mind seeing more titles released like this, although I guess it's expensive. As for the film itself; awesome awesome awesome. It manages to blend CG with anime really well, resulting in a nice cell-shaded feel. The action scenes are amazing, especially the finale. And the soundtrack includes Basement Jaxx and Paul Oakenfield, and works really well with the film. My only dissapointment is that the film takes a different direction to the manga, making everything shiny and modern, whereas the manga had an old-school, 80's, cyber-punk feel to it. While this doesn't make the movie bad, it just doesn't come across as being as Shirow as say Ghost in the Shell. I'm looking forward very eagerly to news of a sequel and/or TV series.

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:

thats wat i found different i the old movie has a different storyline to the new one, but meh _________________ Even if their eyes are scorched.Even if their arms are writhing, they will never stop marching head,guided by the will'o the wisp.They will will their way and shoot at point-blak distance,the footsteps that have thrown life away, the trigger that brings death.,the 901 Anti-Tank-Trooper.

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:02 am Post subject:

The old OVA was a little closer to the original manga. The up and coming TV series and second movie will likely be further original tales, with a little influence from the manga. _________________ My AniDB Page

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:39 am Post subject:

Wat there more Appleseed coming. _________________ Even if their eyes are scorched.Even if their arms are writhing, they will never stop marching head,guided by the will'o the wisp.They will will their way and shoot at point-blak distance,the footsteps that have thrown life away, the trigger that brings death.,the 901 Anti-Tank-Trooper.

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:

There is a 26 episode series and a second movie announced for next year. The second movie has the same director, so will likely be of the same style (which I personally think it overrated). They are both expected around the middle of the year. _________________ My AniDB Page

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject:

Elric of Grans wrote:

There is a 26 episode series and a second movie announced for next year. The second movie has the same director, so will likely be of the same style (which I personally think it overrated). They are both expected around the middle of the year.

Any word if the series will have the same CG as the Movie(s) Because i just can't imgine the seires animated.

Good to hear though, i'm just a tad iffy about what direction they'll take the show in.
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject:

Very little has been announced about the series. I am hoping for something like STAND ALONE COMPLEX, but who knows at this stage. _________________ My AniDB Page

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject:

Oh great another series i have to get. _________________ Even if their eyes are scorched.Even if their arms are writhing, they will never stop marching head,guided by the will'o the wisp.They will will their way and shoot at point-blak distance,the footsteps that have thrown life away, the trigger that brings death.,the 901 Anti-Tank-Trooper.

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject:

Elric of Grans wrote:

Very little has been announced about the series. I am hoping for something like STAND ALONE COMPLEX, but who knows at this stage.

Which would be brilliant, but true only time will tell.
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject:

Elric of Grans wrote:

The old OVA was a little closer to the original manga. The up and coming TV series and second movie will likely be further original tales, with a little influence from the manga.

A second movie and a TV series?! Great!
I only just watched the movie the other day. I loved it!

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:

OMG! there gonna be a Appleseed TV series? My bf gonna flip.He'll buy that for sure. The CGI in the movie was great. I enjoyed the film overall.

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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:03 am Post subject:

is madman planning to release the 1st ova to dvd..

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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject:

I picked up a copy on DVD nearly a year ago. Awesome animé. _________________ In Soviet Russia Eye More Than Meets You!

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject:

Picked up the Ltd Ed today and z0mg it was excellentastic! The Ltd Ed case is awesome too, i love the spine. More Appleseed plz _________________ A statue of Franky $10 000. A photo of Franky $100. To be able to meet me in person...priceless. Their are alot of things you can't buy in life. For everything else there's shop lifting. Proud Member of Typhoon LongWang Twister.

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:44 am Post subject:

Franky01 wrote:

Picked up the Ltd Ed today and z0mg it was excellentastic! The Ltd Ed case is awesome too, i love the spine.

More Appleseed plz Smile

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:12 am Post subject:

Elita One wrote:

OMG! there gonna be a Appleseed TV series? My bf gonna flip.He'll buy that for sure. The CGI in the movie was great. I enjoyed the film overall.

Would be nice if Shirow continued on with manga from volume 4 + DATA BOOK.

I found that APPLESEED manga what much better than GITS manga. Better character development. And the techno-babble was much more believable.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:18 am Post subject:

Theirs rumours about an Appleseed 2 movie and a 26 episode Appleseed series. Just rumours so far but i have a funny feeling their not rumours. _________________ I'm 13 and a music fantatic. My Forum Family Sisters-kbz333, mi, cobizah Cousins-Gir, Hagane, Whitegreek, Rena Pet Cat-Tallis Friends-Every Madboarder!

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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:12 am Post subject:

Akira112 wrote:

Theirs rumours about an Appleseed 2 movie and a 26 episode Appleseed series. Just rumours so far but i have a funny feeling their not rumours.

Old news Akira, Elric graced us with the information about a 2 weeks ago

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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject:

i'd be more conaerned with the 1st movie getting a re-release than anythingelse for the time being, its great there is a possible 2nd movie and a tv series in the wings......

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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject:

Balsnac wrote:

Old news Akira, Elric graced us with the information about a 2 weeks ago

It was old news then too: I heard about it around two or three months ago.
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject:

Elric of Grans wrote:

Balsnac wrote:

Old news Akira, Elric graced us with the information about a 2 weeks ago

It was old news then too: I heard about it around two or three months ago.

Really? I'm just so out of the loop Crying or Very sad

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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject:

I finally went and bought MM's ltd ed 2dvd tin box for the movie. I did have it ordered for the R1 last year, but was unable to get the ltd ed release with the figurine. The movie reminded me a bit of the animation that Disney's Robots movie had, but I have to say that Appleseed was very nicely done. I hope that they do the 2nd Appleseed movie in the same style as this one since it has pretty much blown me away. _________________ I saw the chainsaw surgeon, when he left the operating theatre one day. And I saw the smiley face on the chainsaw, covered in a redish spray. His face though scarred was smiling, when he saw me in the hall. He laughed and danced and sang in joy, as the blood was flung across the wall.

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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:25 am Post subject:

that's the problem when they do remakes... I wonder if madman plans to release the original appleseed to dvd...

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject:

yeah i would like them to release the old school appleseed dvd aswell. i've heard that its pretty good for its age. _________________ THE END.

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject:

I heard that the original was terrible compared to the movie content wise. _________________ I'm 13 and a music fantatic. My Forum Family Sisters-kbz333, mi, cobizah Cousins-Gir, Hagane, Whitegreek, Rena Pet Cat-Tallis Friends-Every Madboarder!

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject:

Hawkwintermist wrote:

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The movie reminded me a bit of the animation that Disney's Robots movie had...

Robots wasn't Disney (or Pixar) it was made by Blue Sky Studios (for Fox).

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