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Travku
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Tower Of Druaga: The Aegis Of Uruk & The Sword of Uruk (English audio) |
As Siren has the R4 rights for these you might want to email them about these two. The way that I think they are doing it is first releasing the sub only and then when a dub is available will rerelease it and for those who purchased it sub only and want to get the new release get some sort of benefit through a reward program thing. I don't know of any plans to release them as BluRay though, maybe contact them through their website and ask. |
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speedfreek19
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Though Siren has yet to release the second season here, though looking on ANN, it appears that Funi have dubbed them but seeing as Siren already has the licence to it, Madman can't even begin to license the show here unless Siren goes belly up or they lose the license. (that last sentence was directed at UncaBou
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Travku
Koyomi Mizuhara
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| speedfreek19 wrote: | | Though Siren has yet to release the second season here, though looking on ANN, it appears that Funi have dubbed them but seeing as Siren already has the licence to it, Madman can't even begin to license the show here unless Siren goes belly up or they lose the license. (that last sentence was directed at UncaBou |
I know that the first series is the first one (of the new titles that they have picked up) that they are redoing with a dub now that it is available and this is what they will try out the loyalty program with. That's pretty much what I gathered from the last time I had communication with them. |
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speedfreek19
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Did you ask anything or mention anything in relation to price difference between the japanese audio and the dual audio release?
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UncaBou
Lin Minmay
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I have THE AEGIS OF URUK set Siren released recently. When I suggested the English release on this forum, I was under the impression that Funimation had the rights and this left me uncertain as to who could have them in Australia.
Since then I found a leaflet that was enclosed in the set. It describes the release as the Ichiban edition which has Japanese audio with menu selectable English subtitles, released before a English audio existed.
If an English version is made available by Siren in the future, collectors who purchased the Ichiban and registered their interest in buying the new release will be given a pre-order incentive. The new English audio included re-release is called the Eigo version and as a Ichiban purchaser you are eligible for inclusion on their Eigo request list.
It will be interesting to see if the local market embraces this concept. I think a lot depends on the incentive the publishing company is willing to offer these customers. When I purchased the set I didn't realise it was Japanese audio only. Had I known I probably wouldn't have bought it until an English version came out. If the incentive proves to be a fair offer, I'll have no qualms in making such purchases in future.
Look at FMA-B. It's great that Madman put it up in the screening room. The only problem is that there are probably a lot of FMA fans that can't get Madman's Screening Room. I think Dean mentioned during a recent Snacktime podcast that it will probably be this time next year before we see FMA-B on the shelves. If Madman did a "Buy the Ichiban now and get the Eigo discounted when released" I'd definitely be interested for FMA-B. |
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JESTER
Maggie Mui
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Siren doing what's its doing with Tower or Uruk and some others with a sub only release at first then a dub/sub release later isn't to my taste. I don't like their slimpacks the same way I don't like MM's. Doing it sub only at first will make people think that it won't have a dub and thus not notice the dub/sub release later on.
Also seeing it sub only when it's been licensed by the US will make people go for the better US release.
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reggie6107
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the ones I defiantly want to see from madman:
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
Nodame Cantabile (the animax version)
The Melancholy of Haruhi-chan Suzumiya
When They Cry [Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]
School Rumble Third Term (OVA)
Kara no Kyoukai - not sure if its been dubbed yet
Clannad
Clannad (movie)
My Bride is a Mermaid! [Seto No Hanayome] - the name of the dubbed version sounds awful, but its actually a funny anime
Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
Others that I would like to get from madman:
Kara no Kyoukai (light novel)
haruhi suzumiya (light novels)
Bamboo Blade
Air
Kanon 2006
welcome to the NHK
To Heart
Kashimashi ~Girl Meets Girl~
Vampire Knight
Vampire Knight Guilty
Toradora!
Nodame Cantabile
Blood+ (Anime)
Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru (manga)
Sasameki Koto (manga)
School Days
Penguin Musume Heart
Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch Picture Drama
Bleach - Memories in the Rain (OVA)
Bleach - The Sealed Sword Frenzy (OVA)
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speedfreek19
Hikari Horaki
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Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo |
At first I wanted to see this released here but after seeing it on Cartoon Network, i don't want it anymore =/
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Kashimashi ~Girl Meets Girl~ |
This is one i'd like to see release here, along with Strawberry Panic and Simoun  but being subtitled only, they don't have much of a chance out here, more so when they're Yuri series.
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Blood+ (Anime) |
Sony owns the rights and are also releasing the first part to it soon.
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Travku
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| UncaBou wrote: | | I have THE AEGIS OF URUK set Siren released recently..... |
We have a thread to talk about Siren and their "resurgence" into the Australian anime market:
http://madboards.madman.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=27161
Personally I think it is good to see them back and correcting previous mistakes they have made and this new system is designed to get titles from Japan out quicker to Australian consumers. I believe there is room in the market for Madman and Siren to co-exist and would be happy to buy a Siren title rather than import it from the US.
But people seem to be divided over this opinionwise so that's why I have posted the link to the Siren thread in case anyone wishes to continue talking about this topic. |
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UncaBou
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Added.
Super Dimension Century Orguss to my list.
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SGD_Eirikr
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Seeing as Madman now has a link with Jetix, Digimon Data Squad, I'd be more than happy to buy Digimon Adventure, 02 and Tamers. It's not like a DVD version hasn't been done, the R1 release was in 07 I believe. Question is, would Madman use the nice book like boxes of the R1 release(Think Magna's GI Joe Tour of Duty, the older releases of Hercules the Legendary Journies) or fat/slim pack. I believe the US releases were 6 discs a piece, due to no special features or japanese track, thanks to the edits. But Madman, if they do release it, might want to do it akin to Data Squad, 4x2, as at 6 discs, that's cramming 9 a disc, which reduces the quality alot.
Mobile Fighter G Gundam. This is one I have been waiting for for ages now, I am just about ready to import the Bandai US releases, which may end up slightly more expensive than getting them localy. I would not be against doing what Bandai US does though, straight to 2x5 fatpacks.
I don't see the point in asking for MSZG or CCA, as they are too tied into MSG.
I would side with others though, I could go for Zoids getting a reissue, but seeing as it's not on the toy shelves, I don't see it happening.
I would like to see, if Magna ever looses it(We can only hope), a proper release of GI Joe A Real American Hero, both Sunbow and Dic. But as I have said over at Skymates, we are only two releases away from a complete, abiet out of order, Sunbow Series, only missing the remainder of S2, the first two miniseries and the first 5 episodes, a 5 parter aswell as those nice new Shout! Factory releases can just be imported if you want them clean, in order and not just a basic release. |
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UncaBou
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| JESTER wrote: | .......Doing it sub only at first will make people think that it won't have a dub and thus not notice the dub/sub release later on.
Also seeing it sub only when it's been licensed by the US will make people go for the better US release. |
I agree, if there's an English language version available O/S. But if there won't be an English Dub for a considerable period, and the title is substantial like FMA-B, a quick and limited "Ichiban" type release may prove worthwhile. |
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Kirben
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| SGD_Eirikr wrote: | | Seeing as Madman now has a link with Jetix, Digimon Data Squad, I'd be more than happy to buy Digimon Adventure, 02 and Tamers. It's not like a DVD version hasn't been done, the R1 release was in 07 I believe. Question is, would Madman use the nice book like boxes of the R1 release(Think Magna's GI Joe Tour of Duty, the older releases of Hercules the Legendary Journies) or fat/slim pack. I believe the US releases were 6 discs a piece, due to no special features or japanese track, thanks to the edits. But Madman, if they do release it, might want to do it akin to Data Squad, 4x2, as at 6 discs, that's cramming 9 a disc, which reduces the quality alot. |
Digimon Data Squad was licensed directly from Toei for the DVD release in the USA, so I doubt Madman went through Jetix for that series.
Only episodes 1 - 13 of Digimon Adventure were ever released on DVD in the USA, any other DVD releases are bootlegs. |
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SGD_Eirikr
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| Kirben wrote: | | Digimon Data Squad was licensed directly from Toei for the DVD release in the USA, so I doubt Madman went through Jetix for that series. |
Realy. While I thought it was odd that it had no Disney or Jetix on the box, I knew Disney had the distribution rights because of their purchase of Sabin. Interesting. I want to find out how they are connected to the Digimon Franchise then.
| Kirben wrote: | | Only episodes 1 - 13 of Digimon Adventure were ever released on DVD in the USA, any other DVD releases are bootlegs. |
Alliance Entertainment release is a bootleg? I thought that was just people being dumb(Edits mean to Uncut) and the fact that DDS has no Disney marks would mean that DA/02/T/F wouldn't. You gave me two things to research.
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So they are. Oh well, always can hope Madman will get them off Toei, unless they are in a totaly different situation to Data Squad.
EDIT 2:
After digging out the old tapes, they have FoxKids(Bought by Disney?) and 20thCent.Fox on them, like the movie DVD. I think there is the reason why there are no DVDs.
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Disney own the broadcast rights to the dub only, hence why Funi got 02 on it's site subbed. Toei owns everything else, and as shown with the Maximum UK Releases of the first 20 eps of S1, are not against releasing it. So yeah. |
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Shawaazu
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Honey & Clover
Monster
Nana
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20th Century Boys movies |
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Dr.Slump
Lin Minmay
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Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
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JESTER
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I agree, if there's an English language version available O/S. But if there won't be an English Dub for a considerable period, and the title is substantial like FMA-B, a quick and limited "Ichiban" type release may prove worthwhile. |
I really can't see MM take the risk of doing a limited "Ichiban" release on dvd knowing that they'll have to release it later on dub/sub only. Cost wise, it can backfire as MM must make X amount of sales to break even. People will see the sub release and then avoid the title or simply wait for the US release which will come out before MM's version.
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UncaBou
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@JESTER
Yes, if the numbers don't add up, it's not worth doing. There's also been some cases such as "Initial D" the live action movie, which was released here as a subbed version but the eventual dubbed version never made it. Same with the Death Note movies. It wouldn't be good if a subbed release killed the chance of a future dubbed release.
You mentioned that the US release will come out before the MM version and I assume you mean at least a month or more. I don't understand why this has to be, at least with important titles like FMA-B. |
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The Tragic Man
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Because they have to wait for any or all of the following: disc menus/layouts, English dub, subtitles. They then have to convert the video, assemble the disc and have it passed by the Classification Board. It is then send it off to the replicators. Then they have to package the discs and distribute them.
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UncaBou
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@ The Tragic Man
Okay, so all the elements are I suppose, sourced from the same overseas suppliers that are putting the US (or other) versions together. Is it not possible for this to happen almost simultaneously? I appreciate the local censor may be cause of delay from time to time as may local manufacturing, but under what's considered normal conditions my layman's expectation is that it should be deliverable within a month of the US release.
I appreciate I'm ignorant of the process and interested in your response. |
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The Tragic Man
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I think I recall it being said Madman doesn't get the materials until the US has finished with them. Otherwise, Madman could become more susceptible to delays, and that could harm customer relations.
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UncaBou
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It looks like the original creators (Funimation or whoever) of these elements don't want to release it before a certain point in their own process. Then why doesn’t MM do their own menus etc? Probably cost or perhaps the license has conditions that require the same features. I think it was Black Lagoon 2nd Barrage that came out before the US release, I presume because the original license owner (Geneon??) went out of business, so MM must have had the components while the new US license holder got their act together.
Anyway, to bring this back on topic, I'd like to see FMA-B released as soon as MM can possibly do it! |
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So would Madman.
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| UncaBou wrote: | | Then why doesn’t MM do their own menus etc? |
They do.
| UncaBou wrote: | | I think it was Black Lagoon 2nd Barrage that came out before the US release, I presume because the original license owner (Geneon??) went out of business, so MM must have had the components while the new US license holder got their act together. |
That was more due to the fact that the dubbing had been completed so madman already had the other material and all they need was the dubbing as they do the rest in house.
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Thanks Speedy!
That being the case, so long as they get the English dub I reckon the MM version should be out within a month after the US release. That would also make importing less attractive I'd expect. |
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They've done close releases to the US before.
I know back when Ah! My Goddess Season 2 was being released in the states, i started importing it and a couple months later (the off month between vol 2 and 3 in the states) they released Volume 1 and were doing them every 2nd month, so a couple months difference between US and AU having releases is pretty good.
It really depends on the title too and how much of it gets dubbed before the first volume comes out, as they may have only started the first couple of episodes on the next disc by the time the previous vol comes out in the states.
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/hugs madman for getting the L change the worLd novel...
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| UncaBou wrote: | Thanks Speedy!
That being the case, so long as they get the English dub I reckon the MM version should be out within a month after the US release. That would also make importing less attractive I'd expect. |
Unfortunately we can only speculate about when MM will release a title in comparison to the US release since MM gives notice of titles being released months in advance. The same is said for Funimation, but again, it really depends on how quickly they can get everything together and keep sure that there's no bugs in the discs.
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UncaBou
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I begin to understand there are complexities.
I've said elsewhere that I'm very reluctant to import, not only because I'm worried about compatibility, but the MM quality is consistently excellent (in my view). I also like the idea of supporting the local industry, particularly a company that is releasing Australian films such as the classic "Wake in Fright" or recent productions like "All Men are Liars”. With that in mind I do have a potential title for Madman to investigate.
In the early 1970's the first Australian produced animated feature was released by the Eric Porter Studios. The story in "Marco Polo Jr. vs The Red Dragon" would not be out of place as a Disney production. Of course it doesn’t have the polish of Disney, but it's a great effort and it's a shame you don't see it on the kids shelves. I understand it had been re-cut and voiced by an American company, but it would be good if MM could look into obtaining the original Australian version and consider it for release. |
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Lina Inverse
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How about The Twelve Kingdoms Manga.
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Higurashi no Naku Koro ni... please?
Also, it'd be nice to see Air (TV) show up on Madman's product list.
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| Arrnea wrote: | Higurashi no Naku Koro ni... please?
Also, it'd be nice to see Air (TV) show up on Madman's product list. |
i highly agree with these 
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@ Arrnea: Just a heads up, this sight doesn't allow animated avatars.
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