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EternalMelodyII
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: Dragonball Average Reply with quote
I wondered if there is anyone here who doesn't like Dragonball Z/GT/Kai and why?
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Travku
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is a dedicated section on the boards for DBZ discussion:
http://madboards.madman.com.au/viewforum.php?f=4
Would probably get more response if you posted in here
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The Tragic Man
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey, he said doesn't like. You'd hardly expect non-fans to congregate in the Dragonball forum.

I'm not a fan, but I don't hold any animosity towards Dragoball. Several years ago I use to watch it on Cheeze TV. But never caught a full season or anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Tragic Man wrote:
Hey, he said doesn't like. You'd hardly expect non-fans to congregate in the Dragonball forum.

Fair enough, I was expecting this to be moved to that forum so that's why I posted the link.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dragonball topics belong in the Dragonball forum.

Let's moving...
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Blue Monday
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I used to love DragonBall when I was younger, when it was first shown in Australia.
I don't care too much for it now - Don't hate it though

I love playing Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on PS2
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Out of all the series of Dragon Ball my least favourite would be GT because it could have been done better. Should I post movies as well because I don't like some of them?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I find I have no interest in DragonBall Kai. I like most of the filler, and I just don't want to buy an abridged version of the series with 'updated art' when I can just fastforward what I don't like on my DVD's.

The only thing I like about Kai is the new merchandise they're coming out with.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hagane_Gir wrote:
I find I have no interest in DragonBall Kai. I like most of the filler, and I just don't want to buy an abridged version of the series with 'updated art' when I can just fastforward what I don't like on my DVD's.


You really like filler such as the crab on Namek? Fake namek? Ginyu in Bulma's body? All the various staredowns and powering ups (yes, a vast majority are filler originating)? The various trips to hell? Garlic bloody Junior?

I'm not going to say there's no good filler (love the trip to Arlia, and the Z-senshi fighting the duo of ancient Saiyan warriors, Tenshinhan managing to take down two members of the Ginyu Force, Gohan and that robot, etc.), but yeah.
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Hagane_Gir
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gouki wrote:
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You really like filler such as the crab on Namek? Fake namek? Ginyu in Bulma's body? All the various staredowns and powering ups (yes, a vast majority are filler originating)? The various trips to hell? Garlic bloody Junior?


I can easily fast forward (or in the cases of Garlic Junior and Bulma and the crab, completely skip) filler that I don't enjoy. I'm not going to repurchase the entire series just to get rid of those scenes.

As I said, I like a lot of the filler. It's fun. Even Fake Namek, to an extent, though I suspect that's just because those episodes were the first I ever saw of the show, and I have some sort of strange nostalgic feeling towards them. A lot of it does more for characters we don't see as much. When we weren't having exactly what we'd just seen in an episode described to us by Kaio-sama, I enjoyed the filler with Piccolo and company on his planet. Gohan's early training is great character development. Added filler for the Great Saiyaman is enjoyable too.

You've mentioned the few filler scenes or arcs I don't enjoy, basically. But those are easy enough to skip. I don't know how many people would agree with me but Kai has cut out a lot of the filler I enjoy and I'm really not eager to buy it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like some filler in DragonBall Z. The Great Saiyaman and Gohan training filler is really good. It is better then some of the normal episodes. They should have kept some filler in.
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SS3 Son Goku
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well you have to admit it's pretty good for it's age.

Compare to today's anime which the animation has improved and more complex storylines or even just simple storylines...Dragonball/Z/GT is getting old I'm afraid but I do see people still buy the season slimpacks.

So even if it's and oldie it's still a goodie in somebody's taste.

The old generation might get sick of it but a new generation will probably start to like it.

It's gonna be one of those classic anime's that keeps having a fan base.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dragonball Average Reply with quote
EternalMelodyII wrote:
I wondered if there is anyone here who doesn't like Dragonball Z/GT/Kai and why?

Heathens! (j/k)
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EternalMelodyII
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
SS3 Son Goku said:
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It's gonna be one of those classic anime's that keeps having a fan base.


It already is a classic haha.

Yarrrr be Spoilers be loooo!

Nah I just started the topic because I used to love all DBZ when I was younger but
over time I grew sick of the series; like Goku taking 10 episodes to do a kamehameha to kill Frieza. The fact that if someone dies they can come back to life so theres not that feeling of loss if a character dies, like for example in (SPOILERS) Death Note or Cowboy Bebop. It's just usually new anime fans come into the fandom like DBZ is the best man..or even just ignorant fans when there is so much more out there. I'm not trying to sound elitist but I'm just saying I think it's a good stepping stone to finding more anime.

I mean its still a classic and is still so popular in Japan and around the world but I just wouldn't consider it the ''best anime''. It's all opinion of course
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Blue Monday
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree with Eternal Melodyll - You don't feel any empathy for the characters when they die as there is no finality in there death

They are just resurrected some way or another
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I laugh when ever I see Krillin die, then I watch him die in Slow-mo. I really don't like him.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's pretty funny, watching it in slow motion. That's also pretty sadistic too - What's wrong with Krillin?
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Birrirra
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I used to like it...but I've outgrown it. There were a lot of annoying aspects to it, like the taking forever to power-up (and the bad guy of the week just waited for them to do it).

It still holds a special place in my heart though. It DID get me into anime and manga after all. And I admit I have been watching it on Cartoon Network lately, but that's only because they've just hit the Trunks/Android saga...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't know I just hate him. Everyone goes crazy when he dies Goku and Gohan.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not a fan of GT personally, it's like official fanfiction as some people have put it.
And also since Akira Toriyama had minmal to no involvement in it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And it was just plain bad...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep not much of a plot it's like a rehash of DB having to find the Dragonballs all over again, along with better fights then Dragonball Z, basically.
Not to mention reverting Goku to a kid, ignoring some characters and other things.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I watched DBZ when it was on CheezTV -well not all of it, I never saw all of the Buu saga. It's not a bad show, but the filler used to bug the heck out of me. It'd be Friday, and you've waited 5 days to see Goku kill Frieza then he still doesn't do it before the end of that episode and now you have to wait to whole 2 days to see what happens on Monday.

The filler is what kept me from ever getting the DVDs, so I'm now taking the opportunity to get DBZ Kai. It's kinda fun watching it again after all these years. The only thing I don't like about it, is the OP/ED (I miss the original DBZ OP/ED) and the add break eye catch bits which are all pixelated -well, the lines are anyhow.

Other than that, it's great watching DBZ again.

P.S. Never watched GT. I thought it was lame they made Goku a kid again at the start -it's almost like they just wanted an excuse to make more episodes... No wait.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gouki wrote:
[..]You really like filler such as the crab on Namek?

Dude, crab battle > all.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't dislike it, however I do prefer the original Dragonball to Z. I wouldn't buy Z, due to fillers/overly long, probably would only watch it once and never again. Kai, I might eventually get, since it's shorter, but yeah. It's a very low priority.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dragonball was much more funnier then Dragonball Z.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chika Akatsuki wrote:
Dragonball was much more funnier then Dragonball Z.


plus the fights were more enjoyable when they couldn't destroy planets and concentrated on skill more than power
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I still think the high point of all the fights in Dragon Ball was the transition period between the original and Z, the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai and the Saiyan arc have some of the best fights in the series.

After Goku vs. Vegeta though, it started going downhill, Kamehameha vs. Gallick Gun was pretty epic the first time around, but when every battle eventually devolves into constant blast spamming and beam wars...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
SaiyamanMS wrote:
I still think the high point of all the fights in Dragon Ball was the transition period between the original and Z, the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai and the Saiyan arc have some of the best fights in the series.

After Goku vs. Vegeta though, it started going downhill, Kamehameha vs. Gallick Gun was pretty epic the first time around, but when every battle eventually devolves into constant blast spamming and beam wars...


This is so true, that is why the Saiyan Arc is my favorite.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pretty sure the greatest thing was Goku vs Jackie Chun's fight in the 21st tenkaichi tournament in Dragonball.

Also Bacterian.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
QueenSaiyan wrote:
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Dude, crab battle > all.


Nuh uh!
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