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Incorporation Into Life
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@ndy
Hajime Saitou


Joined: 02 Jan 2001
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 9:31 am    Post subject: Incorporation Into Life Reply with quote
It's all well and good discussing the facts and the outcome of Neon Gen but has anyone here actually been so influenced they've altered their actions, thoughts on life or attitude towards others?
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Captain_Ginyu
Lin Minmay


Joined: 30 Nov 2000
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes! After watching NGE i went out and bought a pet penguin, it's name of course is PenPen.
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Access
Lin Minmay


Joined: 06 Dec 2000
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Location: Jerilderie

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
NG has shaped me into the person I am. I cannot descibe the ways it has changed me, and I am not even going to try. I prefer to keep this aspect private, by keeping this and what EVA means to me, private allows my viewing of NG to be unique to everybody else. And I am happy.
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@ndy
Hajime Saitou


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I understand Access.

Sometimes if you were to discuss in words what it is, that something has to be converted into logic. When you do that, it detracts from the original mind's image. Like you, I am happy right now with the way my subconscious recognises it and yeah, if I were to discuss it, I could lose it... scary thought.
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Kermi
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Perhaps coincidence, but among other things, I have gained better control of my emotions I think. I don't hate anyone or anything despite situations where I have been provoked... consider LiL GoHaN's MSN MEssenger conversations an exception Razz

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Hyper C
Akiha Tohno


Joined: 08 Feb 2001
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I dont thnk that I can deny that Eva has changed me. But like many people Im not sure exactly how. I do remember once when I was just sitting, looking at nothing much, thinking over Eva and I suddenly drew a few comparisons between myself and Shinji... a few characters followed after that. it was actually a frightening experience.

Hyper C
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Melfina


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2001 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well it hasn't changed me yet. But soon it will have made my debts a little bit bigger. That's a change I don't look forward too.

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Shijima
Hajime Saitou


Joined: 04 Dec 2000
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Location: Gehenna

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How has EVA changed my life?
I now realise and appreciate all the beauty and mystery the world has to offer, its good and its bad, its joys and sorrows.
I spontaneously attack religious statues wherever I find them.
I can now move my left leg in a clockwise direction while moving my right leg anti-clockwise.
I now only drink Yebisu beer. And marmalade.
I can breathe underwater for up to 6 days straight.
I go to the middle of the desert and yell, "Congratulations!" at the dingoes.
I can wave my hands in my air. (It's Delacratic)

...but seriously...

I get to be involved in interesting discussions with all kinds of interesting people about a program that stimulates healthy debate and argument about certian societal and personal issues that don't get many other avenues of address but maybe should. That and it's fun too.
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@ndy
Hajime Saitou


Joined: 02 Jan 2001
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mm.

Do you think one can fully appreciate Eva if they have not been depressed or sincerely wished for a cease in human existance? Dying is not that scary if everyone else dies too. I don't really fear death. I don't care at all if I die exexpectantly tomorrow. It's only the pain and sadness that I would put others through that worries me. But I guess some of that is dealt with in the last episode of instrumentality.
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Shijima
Hajime Saitou


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's a fair enough question, @ndy, but why restrict it to appreciation of EVA? It could be argued that until you come to terms with your own mortality and the fact that one day you ARE going to die, you can't fully appreciate being alive. In part, such a realisation or epiphanic event can only occur when you've been willing to explore the darker 'shadow' regions of yourself because it's all about identifying, facing and accepting that which you fear the most. A friend described it to me as, "When you're stuck at the bottom of a deep pit and it seems impossible to crawl out, sometimes you've got to go DOWN to get out". Granted, death does cause pain and sadness to those left behind but that's the 'risk' you take in being close to other people and most people realise it's worth it. Because it's not really a risk, it's inevitable and so it should be made the most of.

I think that to a large extent EVA does in fact address these (and many many other) issues throughout the series and the movies without prescribing a perfect answer but instead plants the seeds of ideas like this into the viewers for them to come to terms with themselves.
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Bosco
Doraemon


Joined: 07 Dec 2000
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by @ndy:
Mm.

I don't really fear death. I don't care at all if I die exexpectantly tomorrow. .



Interesting words but how old are you sonny? It's easy to say that and sound brave but until you have been in a situation where your life and very existence is at real risk how can you know how you really feel? I'll tell you right now YOU CANT!!!!! I thought the same thing once unitl i went to war in desert storm and stepped on a landmine, i got one leg and half my guts blown away in an instant...i'll tell you real fear, not the fear of dying but the fear of living after a situation like that nothing is the same as anything believe me.
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YeLLoW MoNKeY
Yoriko Nakaido


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bosco:
I thought the same thing once unitl i went to war in desert storm and stepped on a landmine, i got one leg and half my guts blown away in an instant...



you deserve it with your ****** attitude. your probably just a pre-pubescent little whore who still sux on his mummys saggy tits and tries to act mature by bagging out defenceless madman.com.au board users cos you got no cošk to do these things in real life - GROW UP YOU PIECE OF ****

[edit]took out swearing b4 kermi sees this and duz it anyway Razz
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Melfina


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2001 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
WOAH! That was harsh if I've ever seen it.

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koolkabanna
Hajime Saitou


Joined: 02 Dec 2000
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Location: Australia-Tasmania-Hobart-Moonah

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
*Frowns at both Bosco and Yellow Monkey*
Bosco... *sigh*...you aren't making many friends here...
Monkey, c'mon dude leave him to it... (*snigger*, nice job eluding the boards censoring)

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koolkabanna
Hajime Saitou


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In regards to the topic at hand...
My exposure to this series has changed me, of that I am certain! Whereas it may not have given me a totaly new lease on life... (actually, thats up for debate!) I have learned many aspects of life which I never thought I would... Generally Im much more passive, Whereas I don't follow any religion devoutly I find myself a lot more open minded...

that does not mean "gilible"

...after a bit of thought the rest of the changes are best kept private... suficed to say Im a better person after eva...
Thank you, Hideaki, Anno

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koolkabanna
Hajime Saitou


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shijima:
That's a fair enough question, @ndy, but why restrict it to appreciation of EVA? It could be argued that until you come to terms with your own mortality and the fact that one day you ARE going to die, you can't fully appreciate being alive. In part, such a realisation or epiphanic event can only occur when you've been willing to explore the darker 'shadow' regions of yourself because it's all about identifying, facing and accepting that which you fear the most. A friend described it to me as, "When you're stuck at the bottom of a deep pit and it seems impossible to crawl out, sometimes you've got to go DOWN to get out". Granted, death does cause pain and sadness to those left behind but that's the 'risk' you take in being close to other people and most people realise it's worth it. Because it's not really a risk, it's inevitable and so it should be made the most of.

I think that to a large extent EVA does in fact address these (and many many other) issues throughout the series and the movies without prescribing a perfect answer but instead plants the seeds of ideas like this into the viewers for them to come to terms with themselves.




*nods in aproval*
Nice interpretation my friend... very nice indeed.

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Access
Lin Minmay


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
so in other words;

<Redneck Voice>
"Dat which dont kill ya, make ya stronga"
</Redneck Vocie>



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Melfina


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hot dang Cletus I think he got it.
(sorry, I just had to keep the redneck going)

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Atax
Hajime Saitou


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can say that, yes, evangelion has changed the way I think and experience life.

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Shijima
Hajime Saitou


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2001 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
(lol) Durn it, Maw! Git offen tha roof!

"Dat which dont kill ya, make ya stronga"

...unless...

"Dat which dont kill ya, make ya sick"
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