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Majin Cell
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: The Gundam Modelling Thread Reply with quote
Recently, I've been getting into Gundam Modelling and with the news that if you purchase Mobile Suit Gundam SEED volume 1 + box at either Electronics Boutique or JB Hi Fi you will get a Strike Gundam model kit. I thought I'd start a thread about Gundam Modelling.

Post :

- what you have,
- what you are modelling at the moment,
- any tips or tricks you might have,
- and your thoughts on what others have done.

I'll kick off anyway,

I have just finished painting my first model, the High Grade Gundam Deathscythe Hell Custom 1/144 scale from Gundam Wing : Endless Waltz. It has taken me nearly two weeks to paint him fully, and although the paint job is ok for my first model, it could have been alot better.

I am currently making a diorama for him to stand on too. I'll post images when I've completely finished everything.

I have the standard 1/144 Raider Gundam kit assembled and ready for painting, which I may start when I finish the Deathscythe. I have also the 1/144 High Grade Red and Blue Frame Astrays (from the manga Gundam SEED : Astray) in the post as we speak, which I should recieve by Friday (fingers crossed).

So, over to you! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I want the Double X Kit that comes with a bunch of Weapons that weren't used in its Series.

EG. The Twin Beam Sabre, Gundam Hammer, Beam Javelin & Grenade Launcher.

Because I'm nice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've got... um... 1/100 Buster, Aile Strike, and Aegis Gundam (from Tamarket), and MG Freedom that I bought at Gamers in Akihabara. I don't bother painting XD I also bought two sets of Gundam markers (one UC and one SEED) so I can touch them up and do panel lines etc...

Oh, and I've got MG Ball and Rick Dias on the way. I can't wait to play with my Ball! *boom tish*
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm more of a UC fan, so here is my list:

MG 1/100 MSN-004 Sazabi (Char's Counterattack)
MG 1/100 RX-93 Nu Gundam (Char's Counterattack)
MG 1/100 GP03 Stamen (Gundam 0083)
MG 1/100 Kaempfer (Gundam 0080)
MG 1/100 Char's Rick Dom (Gundam novel)
HG 1/144 Zaku II vs RX78 Gundam (8th MS Team)
HG 1/144 Zaku III (Zeta Gundam)
MG 1/100 God Gundam (G Gundam)
MG 1/100 Wing Gundam Ver Ka

Looooove Sazabi and Nu, huge kits. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a few Gundam models lying around somewhere, but I'm no pro at it. It think somebody would have to show me what to do, cause reading what to do out of a book is never as easy as it looks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How do you do them really thing blacklines (like fort he head)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does anyone here paint? I have only one gundam model - a HGUC Rick Dias - and it looks crap unpainted. I've been meaning to pick up a airbrush, but as usual I haven't gotten around to it. If anyone does paint, what brand of paints do you use since the bandai gundam paints don't seem to be available here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spite wrote:
I have a few Gundam models lying around somewhere, but I'm no pro at it. It think somebody would have to show me what to do, cause reading what to do out of a book is never as easy as it looks.


You cut them out of the runner (aka the plastic thing) and shove them together like the pictures show you to @_@;
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lythari wrote:
Does anyone here paint? I have only one gundam model - a HGUC Rick Dias - and it looks crap unpainted. I've been meaning to pick up a airbrush, but as usual I haven't gotten around to it. If anyone does paint, what brand of paints do you use since the bandai gundam paints don't seem to be available here.


I've been using enamel hobby paint from my local model shop. I used it on my first model (Deathscythe) and wasn't overly impressed with the result. Apparently, the Games Workshop Citadel Paints (the ones mainly used for the Warhammer etc figures) are good to use too (they are acrylic rather than enamel). I might give them a go next time.

All I did was paint each part with a flat light grey paint to give it a base coat, something the coloured paints would stick to, and then paint each individual piece. When it dried, I touched it up and re-assembled the model. Air brushing would be any easier way to do it I suppose, but I've never used one so I wouldn't know where to start!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have 5 gundam model kits (that are made up)
They are
1/100 Gundam F91 from Gundam F91
1/100 Vigna-Gina from Gundam F91
1/144 Zaku FZ from Gundam 0080
1/144 Gundam RX-78NT-1 "Alex" from Gundam 0080
1/144 Wing Gundam from Gundam Wing

All standard grade.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Majin Cell wrote:
I've been using enamel hobby paint from my local model shop. I used it on my first model (Deathscythe) and wasn't overly impressed with the result. Apparently, the Games Workshop Citadel Paints (the ones mainly used for the Warhammer etc figures) are good to use too (they are acrylic rather than enamel). I might give them a go next time.

All I did was paint each part with a flat light grey paint to give it a base coat, something the coloured paints would stick to, and then paint each individual piece. When it dried, I touched it up and re-assembled the model. Air brushing would be any easier way to do it I suppose, but I've never used one so I wouldn't know where to start!


I wonder if I still have a few vials of citadel paints sitting around. I used to collect warhammer, but lost interest after a while. I'd considered just using a brush, but i'm lazy and it's a lot faster to airbrush several sprues than to hand paint them Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ive got a couple of models but at the moment they are unpainted.

1/144 Wing Gundam
1/144 Wing Gundam Zero
1/144 Gundam Epyon
1/144 Gundam Virsago
1/144 HGUC Zeta Gundam
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I suppose I'd paint mine but every time I try to paint models the job comes up all dodgy and different thicknesses Razz the pre-coloured nature means I'll keep buying these forever to fuel a woefully underfeed model addiction.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does anybody know if Virsago Chest Break & Ashtaron Hermit Crab can Combine?

'Cause...that'd be cool...

yjs wrote:
HG 1/144 Zaku III (Zeta Gundam)


To be more accurate, Double Zeta...and isn't there a "Zaku V" Model out there somewhere?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mr Waffle wrote:
I suppose I'd paint mine but every time I try to paint models the job comes up all dodgy and different thicknesses Razz


That's another reason why I want an airbrush.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm planning on starting my Raider Gundam by the end of the week, well at least base coat him. Should be fairly easy and quick to do as he is a standard kit.

I should have the Deathscythe finished soon too. Just gotta get around to posting pics...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Being the wacky shopper that he is, Gai decided to buy a 1/144 Gundam Double X after seeing it in HobbyCo Sydney today.

Yes, I'm representing the After War Era! *glares rival-like at thebladesmaster*

As for assembling it...I...haven't actually gotten around to that yet. I plan to do that this evening. Do the Large Beam Swords have to be painted? I couldn't find stickers for 'em....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gai Daigouji wrote:
Being the wacky shopper that he is, Gai decided to buy a 1/144 Gundam Double X after seeing it in HobbyCo Sydney today.


Oooh thanks for reminding me, I'll stop in there when I go to Sydney next. Their MG Zaku II is cheaper than buying it from HLJ Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm the SD type of man (SRW must be getting to my head). I have:

SD Zeta Gundam
SD GP03D
SD Wing Zero Custom
SD Gundam Leopard
SD Aegis Gundam
SD Gundam Astray Red Frame
SD Nu Gundam
SD God Gundam
SD RX-78-2 Gundam
1/144 Providence

Currently, I want an SD ZZ Gundam, The O, Zeong and V2, but money forbids. >_<
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have this model http://www.hobbyco.com.au/product/show_item.php?plu=G0120461
Calamity Gundam.
My host-father bought it for me in Japan when I was there earlier this year. I even got the official paints for it but I left the instructions for it in Japan. I have a Forbidden Gundam model but it wasnt HG so I left it there.
I also have a number of the trading figures. When I find them I will post the details.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gai Daigouji wrote:
1/144 Gundam Double X


That model looks awesome! I'd say that painting the beam swords is a personal thing (as with most, if not all, Gundam models), it wouldn't hurt to give it a go.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've collected a heap of models from Gundam over time, as well as some from other series. Mainly HG ones, although I'm planning to get the MG Strike Rouge (the Cagalli figurine sold me on it).

And I want to see models for Gaia Gundam and Lunamaria's Zaku sometime soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wanna get Fuun Saiki...heh heh heh.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone know if it's still possible to get Deathscythe models?
And what's a good Gundam to get for someone new to modelling?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sleet wrote:
And what's a good Gundam to get for someone new to modelling?


I'd start off with a HG model. Something cheap and simple like the GM Command type . Cheap so you won't be too distraught if you stuff it up, and simple so you're unlikely to stuff it up too much. However, although they're only HG kits (compared to MG and PG) they still have a fair number of parts. If you've never assembled any model of any kind before and are afraid of fiddly things, then possibly no-grade model - although I don't thing a HG model is too difficult for a beginner. Just take your time, read the instructions carefully and ask yourself "does this look like it fits correctly" before you stick anything together.

Talking of HG kits, mmmmmm, Marasai.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sleet wrote:
Anyone know if it's still possible to get Deathscythe models?
And what's a good Gundam to get for someone new to modelling?


Yep, I picked mine up just after Christmas from AnimeZone in Melbourne. It was only $25 on special down from $30. This was my first Gundam model too.


Try here or here or even here.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got MG Gundam RX-78-2, MG G-Gundam, HG Metallic Wing 0 custom... list goes on a little, and quite a bit more on the SD.
To fully make these models, you are suppose to build them, then fill all the gaps with modeling cement, sand them to smooth (repeat cement if needed) , spray with primer (base coat), then paint. That's the basic of it, but there are lots of to that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, for my Double X, all I've got to do is build the the two "X" Satellite Collectors, combine them with the Cannons and then attach that module to the main body.

It's less complex than it sounds.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I enjoy making mecha models. I have just completed a Bandai LM-HG Evangelion Unit-02.
I have a few Gundams, Unit-01 and a Patlabor Aqua Griffon awaiting construction.
The best way I find to make these models is to wash all the seperate part trees in warm soapy water to make the paint adhere better. Then I airbrush the parts while they're still on the sprue.
It's almost impossible to paint a Gundam, or any mecha when it's constructed into subassemblies due to the complex curves and the joints etc. If you are careful when glueing the pieices together, it should look fairly neat. Small details I just use a fine modelling paint brush, I recommend Tamiya.
I use Tamiya paints exclusively for both airbrushing and normal painting, easy to clean up and go on very smooth.
I will post some pictures of my Unit-02 shortly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RE modelling cement stuff, is that easy to use? Like... you get it out of a tube and you rub it into the gap and wait for it to dry or something? ^^;
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saitama wrote:
I recommend Tamiya.
I use Tamiya paints exclusively for both airbrushing and normal painting, easy to clean up and go on very smooth.


I'd come to the conclusion myself that Tamiya paints are the way to go. Do you use enamal or acrylic paints?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I use Tamiya acrylic all the time. But for my Evangelion I painted the main colour (red) using Tamiya enamel, simply because I had some lying around. Good thing with Tamiya acrylic is that it dries quick. Just bear in mind that enamel paint will go over acrylic, but not the other way round.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good modelling cement is a critical choice. Stay away from the tube stuff, it is stringy and messy! I recommend polystyrene cement that has a needle applicator as it makes gluing much easier, especially for small parts. I use either Revell Contacta Proffessional or Humbrol Precision Poly. It's good glue designed for model plastic and costs around $6 for 28ml bottle.
Mr Waffle: Most Bandai mecha kits are snap together, but what I do for durability is put a small amount of glue on the pins that join the parts and along ONE surface of the parts that are to join. Don't use too much and press it together until it dries for a good gapless finish.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I base coated my Raider Gundam last Sunday. I haven't been able to do much more as I had to put new brakes on my VT and now my hands are still filthy from the grease (a day later!). I'll get stuck into it tomorrow I think.

My two Astrays are still in the mail too. The guy was waiting for stock before he could post it to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does anyone here have a recommendation for a decent-but-cheap airbrush? After some thought i've figured that a single-action airbrush will be sufficient for my needs (applying base colours). Internal mix would be nice, but I can live with external mix.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lythari, for your needs I'd recommend a Paasche Model H Single Action airbrush. I own a Paasche double-action, but Paasche are extremely good quality. You should be able to get one from an art/hobby store. Aconstant source of air is a neccessity for airbrushing, so you might want to pick up an inexpensive air compressor as well. Think of it as a worthy investment into producing quality Gundam replicas. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saitama wrote:
Aconstant source of air is a neccessity for airbrushing, so you might want to pick up an inexpensive air compressor as well. Think of it as a worthy investment into producing quality Gundam replicas. Smile


I plan to get a compressor eventually, but I was thinking of starting off with cans of compressed air. I don't think I can afford a compressor at the moment.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a reasonable collection of them now. Mainly HG 1/144, and a good chunk of it is Gundam Seed (hoping to get a full set of HG 1/144). Being an utter ham, I don't paint my models - rather not stuff them up, especially given that the higher grade models usually look decent without paint for the most part.

My collection:

MG 1/100 Ex-S Gundam
MG 1/100 Freedom Gundam
MG 1/100 RX-78-5
HG 1/100 Wing Zero
HG 1/100 Epyon
HG 1/144 Calamity Gundam
HG 1/144 Forbidden Gundam
HG 1/144 Blitz Gundam
HG 1/144 Justice Gundam
HG 1/144 Strike Rouge + IWSP
HG 1/144 CGuE type DEEP Arms
HG 1/144 105 Dagger + Gunbarrel
HG 1/144 Zeta Gundam
HG 1/144 Heavy Arms Custom
HG 1/144 Zaku Warrior (Seed Destiny)
NG 1/60 Strike Gundam Striker Weapons System
NG 1/144 Deathscythe Hell
NG 1/144 Shen Long Gundam

My Ex-S is the pride of my collection. The level of detail on it is incredible, and after building it I resolved to try and only buy MG models that come with a stand, because the extra look is worth it (though in Ex-S's case the stand is necessary, it's too loaded down with weapons to stand on its own). It's also huge - at 1/100 scale when on the stand it's of comparable height to my 1/60 Strike.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I finally got my two Astrays last Monday. They are way cooler than I thought they'd be! I've put together the Blue Frame and by the looks of it all I have to paint is a few panels (in blue) and the panel lines (in Gunmetal Grey or maybe black).

At present I have the Blue Frame set up with twin Beam Sabers in a stance that suggests that he is ready for an oncoming onslaught. When I finish the Red Frame, I will attempt to make a scene with the Red Frame running towards the Blue whilst drawing the Katana blade from it's sheath.

If I manage to pull it off it should look uber cool.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does this really belong in the SEED Board? I mean, even the Topic's Original Post talks about non-CE Mobile Suits.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It does mention about SEED models.
Which is why I moved it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gai Daigouji wrote:
Does this really belong in the SEED Board? I mean, even the Topic's Original Post talks about non-CE Mobile Suits.


I mentioned my Raider Gundam and both Astrays, all of which are from SEED. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My point was that it also DOESN'T mention SEED Models.

Would a Legendary Giant God Ideon Topic belong on the EVA Board if EVA was mentioned in said Topic?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gai Daigouji wrote:
My point was that it also DOESN'T mention SEED Models.

Would a Legendary Giant God Ideon Topic belong on the EVA Board if EVA was mentioned in said Topic?


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You wouldn't happen to be able to tell me a good brand name for use with Gundam models by any chance? [-o<
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And now, I shall Post Pictures of non-SEED Models...







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Slykura
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gai Daigouji wrote:
My point was that it also DOESN'T mention SEED Models.

Would a Legendary Giant God Ideon Topic belong on the EVA Board if EVA was mentioned in said Topic?


Just from skimming the thread I can see the mention of SEED models at least 4-5 times.

Stop trying to moderate the forum when you're not a moderator.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good brand of glue to use is Revell Contacta Professional or Humbrol Precision Poly.

On another note, I think it was a good idea to move this thread to the SEED section.

The SEED series is just being released by Madman so I guess interest in this anime may create interest in building replicas of SEED mecha such as the Aile Strike, Aegis, Buster, Astray, Blitz and Justice.

I myself have got a few SEED kits on order from HLJ, so I think it's topical to incoporate this thread.

Perhaps us guys who post in this thread could have a group build of some cool SEED mecha. We could all decide on a single SEED model or any Gundam from the SEED timeline, any takers?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can anyone recomend some good SEED models that require no painting at all? And are easy to put together?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't have both, it's either one or the other.
Gundam Kits require alot of time and effort. They are relatively easy once you get used to it.

The master Grade kits are usually really good. I have a Strike MG and it's very poseable and extremely detailed. no need to paint and it looks great.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can't think of any MS that wouldn't require some kind of Painting.

Well...maybe a Zaku.
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