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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I love the dubs, i find the Stand Alone Motoko's voice better than her's in the movie.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I love the dubs, i find the Stand Alone Motoko's voice better than her's in the movie.


I completely agree.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
i totally agree... even tho i didn't really like motoko's voice at first, it grew on me, and now the movie one sounds funny...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone know which voice will be in innocences, and hen do we get that by the way.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sly sed a while bak that it's gonna be the stand alone complex cast, so expect the series motoko to be the major in inoccence...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
yay even better.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry to break the bad news but the Majors not in Innocence. She joins with net after movie 1.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yup Batou is the main lead in Innocence Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Sorry to break the bad news but the Majors not in innocence.


Yes, she is.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well which is it ppl.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=2081

Read the synposis.

Theres the proof. And heres morehttp://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/3570.php

Read the What They Say.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You haven't seen the movie, have you?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No but it says in both links,the Majors gone. But from looking at the cast list it has the major. So i assume shes only in flashbacks.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I won't make any comment on the nature of her appearance in the movie, but she is there.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ill try an guess.

Guess 1 She appears to Batou in a child like form.

Guess 2 They recreate a scene from the first flick but with new animation.

Guess 3 She becomes a lifeless doll without any humanity.

If any of these are right PM me to let me know.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The major is most definately in Innocence. As to how, this is one spoiler I ain't giving.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I read the manga for innocence and she is in it, but like Tallis i wont say how.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
heres an intresting question... upon parusing the local tv week... i noticed that GITS SAC wasn't on tonite... even tho i was working my butt off and would have missed it anyways, i found it quite odd...

they did have evengelion death and rebirth on instead... but that show's boring... (dont watch d&r, watch the series and then end of eva... much better)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
coldfire wrote:
I read the manga for innocence and she is in it, but like Tallis i wont say how.


Oh just use the spoiler tags and put us out of our misery Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the reason they arent is cause if they did, they would ruin the movie for us.

And just asking, when will Innocence come out.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah i'l wait til i see the movie to find out...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
archangel wrote:
heres an intresting question... upon parusing the local tv week... i noticed that GITS SAC wasn't on tonite... even tho i was working my butt off and would have missed it anyways, i found it quite odd...


Its because they had them walkly awards on
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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archangel wrote:
heres an intresting question... upon parusing the local tv week... i noticed that GITS SAC wasn't on tonite... even tho i was working my butt off and would have missed it anyways, i found it quite odd...


Its because they had them walkly awards on


pffft! i wana watch ghost in the shell not that crap...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well u should buy the series, its well worth it as u know.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Innocence was on when they did that Anime Showcase at selected theatres!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
te he he, actually i already have ghost in the shell stand alone complex, i just wanted to watch it on tv, cos for some reason it seems more special that way...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ok cool.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Watched the first 2nd gig disc tonight and I have to say the transfer was flawless. Beautiful Smile *hugs his metal tin*

Interesting how they use 'Individual Eleven' instead of the 'Individualist Eleven' that the fansubs used. Easier to understand perhaps? Gives a slightly different meaning IMHO.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Re Innocence:
The major downloads an aspect of herself to one of the sexaroids, and helps Bateau fight through Locus Solus at the end of the movie.

2nd GiG volume one arrived today. It only took three months to get here. Unfortunately the discs are all scratched, too. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Re Innocence:
The major downloads an aspect of herself to one of the sexaroids, and helps Bateau fight through Locus Solus at the end of the movie.

2nd GiG volume one arrived today. It only took three months to get here. Unfortunately the discs are all scratched, too. Sad

Send them back, witha angry face draw on the front.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The major downloads an aspect of herself to one of the sexaroids, and helps Bateau fight through Locus Solus at the end of the movie.

2nd GiG volume one arrived today. It only took three months to get here. Unfortunately the discs are all scratched, too. Sad


Three months? What did they do, send it via indonesian fishing boat?

As for the major's appearance in Innocence, it could be argued that its implied to be much more. As Batou comments to Togusa, when he's on the net he has a 'guardian angel' looking after him <3 And yes the BatouxMokoto fans get more ammunition than ever Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Batuo really needs more loving.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well if you intepret a certain SAC episode correctly, he's been pining over the major since he was a kid.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you have read the manga, you know he is not her type :p
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sure he is, motoko is just a B#^#% and ignors him.
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I don't think its a 'not her type' thing. Mokoto enjoys her little 'diversion' on the side with her girlfriends. However, aside from Ishikawa, Batou has been part of the major's team for the longest AFAIK and part of her life for even longer. There is something there other than just teammates, although Mokoto never shows it. Batou is the one with his feelings out in the open.
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She is bi, but doesn't she have an unnamed/unseen boyfriend somewhere? Perhaps I need to reread. I seem to recall something about her preferring women, but that was probably just some fanboy's ramblings. In the manga, I felt it was pretty obvious that she was not in the least bit interrested in a relationship with Battou; certainly in the second manga, it seems pretty clear that she never pursued any relationship with him.

There is NO question that Battou has a serious crush on her, however Wink
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While the manga, tv and movie all combine to create a rich and complex world, they are all different.

In the manga the major is a lot 'looser', more prone to jokes, more of a 'one of the guys' type girl. Plus she deals in cyber viagra on the side Smile

In the movie, shes an ice queen, much more of a 'cyborg' in personality.

In the tv series shes a mix of both. She has that authoritarian tendancy of the movie, but the softer side of the manga. Shes a lot more introspective than either of the other two. Of all of the mediums shes probably closer to Batou in SAC.

Of course Batou has it bad for her in all three mediums Cool
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it's a professional curtousy thing, the major is batou's superior officer, and officer's are trained not to fratenise with their subordinates... even in real life...
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In the manga she has a boy friend from section one.
Still batuo needs to find somone else or just get a lifeless doll that looks like motoko Very Happy .
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Oh I dunno, reading those pages of the manga, I think shes far from 'lifeless' Very Happy

Just watched the final episode of 2nd gig. Yet again the Tachi's prove that they have more heart and soul than most humans. Self sacrifice seems to be a fundamental basis of the ghosts they have developed. So sad Sad Sad Oh, did anyone notice that the final scene of 2nd gig was almost exactly the same as the opening scene of the first manga? Smile
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i didnt get thos pages in my version of the manga but i found them.
just love it when Batuo trys connecting to her while she's doin it.
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i didnt get thos pages in my version of the manga but i found them.
just love it when Batuo trys connecting to her while she's doin it.


I believe the phrase was 'It's all slimy and sticky, like copulating slugs.' Very Happy
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i didnt get thos pages in my version of the manga but i found them.
just love it when Batuo trys connecting to her while she's doin it.


I believe the phrase was 'It's all slimy and sticky, like copulating slugs.' Very Happy

Lol and she's punches him.
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Still batuo needs to find somone else


he has his dog!
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Yer, wats its name.
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Oshii.

GreyWolfe wrote:
Three months? What did they do, send it via indonesian fishing boat?


I think it got caught up in the Customs computer disaster.
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GreyWolfe
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Joined: 27 Nov 2001
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Location: sydney, nsw, australia

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I must have ordered mine at the right time then. Got here in five working days Smile
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Sanguinarius
Shinobu Nagumo


Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Posts: 492
Location: Just South of Heaven

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
GreyWolfe wrote:
Well if you intepret a certain SAC episode correctly, he's been pining over the major since he was a kid.



get the ghost in the shell novel

"After the long goodbye"

The major is the only thing (possibly along with his dog gabu) that he's ever loved.
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Tachikoma
Shiki Tohno


Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Posts: 5320
Location: Section-9, Melbourne

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Re. people debating about Motoko's presence in Innocence, I can't belive you people didn't pick up on that. I thought it was obvious that she was "there".

Re. her sexuality, she definitely swings both ways Cool - well at least in the Manga she did, esp. the uncensored version (which got me temp. banned once for posting that page on here Laughing). I *think* the GiTS:SAC series also hints this in one of the episodes, but I'm not sure... nor can I remember which episode it was. Maybe I have an over active imagination. Twisted Evil
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