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Blue Hiker Washu Hakubi
Joined: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 330 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: The Rating of Haruhi Suzumiya |
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Was anybody else surprised to see that the OFLC has given Haruhi volume 1 an MA15+ rating?
Not that it affects me personally, I was just a little surprised to see it with a big red label in the catalogue.
I know there's a bit of fanservice here and there, but am I forgetting something? Did somebody take objection to Haruhi's - erm - "hands on" approach to Mikuru's outfits? Admittedly I never found episode 00 (the home made movie one) that interesting, so maybe I missed something there. >_>
Sorta reminds me of Azumanga Daioh... |
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klown911_2002 BT

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wha? Holy crap. Like seriously...thats ridiculous. I woulda thought it was M tops.
But surely enough MA15+ Strong Sexual Themes.
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Zippy Wonderdog Mayuko Chigasaki

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Huh, that is quite odd, the anime doesn't strike me as being overly sexual.
.... I guess the censors know what they are doing but I do wonder.
At any rate you could always start an online petition and appeal the rating if you feel strongly enough about it. _________________ You call your father and you tell him there is something wrong with this thread!
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klown911_2002 BT

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Well Blue Hiker and myself are both over 15 so we really aren't bothered by its rating. Its more just the surprise that it received such a high classification when the themes in it aren't really that strong.
But I guess that could be debated as a matter of opinion.
This will probably generate some interesting discussion nevertheless. _________________ Information Is Absolute Power, Absolute Power Is An Illusion.
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Paludis Doraemon

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| It's like they draw the ratings out of a hat or something.. I mean they gave Azumanga Daioh vol1 MA15+ and then vol2 was G rating.. and the content is virtually the same. Who knows what the hell they're thinking when they slap on these ratings. |
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Greoboruri Linn Syun-Rock Dreu Haider Jinto

Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 2210 Location: ABANDON ALL ART NOW. Major rethink in progress.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Paludis wrote: | | It's like they draw the ratings out of a hat or something... | The problem is that different sets of people view titles, so you can have situations were the rating differ wildly for the same series. But geez, MA15+, what in christ is happening here? Same rating as the very bloody remake of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Think about that. It's absurd. _________________ Schaft Enterprises
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Viking Akiha Tohno

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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It's MA15+ for "Strong sexual themes"
I would say the rating is due to Haruhi's constant molestation of Asahina and total disregard for Kyon's presence during said molestation. Asahina is certainly not a willing participant.
With the recent media "blitz" on school's violence/assault + Mobile phones with camera's it's not really that unexpected.
| Paludis wrote: | | I mean they gave Azumanga Daioh vol1 MA15+ and then vol2 was G rating.. |
From memory that was because of the "pool" episode and Kimura's perving on teenage/pre-teen schoolgirls. _________________ "That wasn't a battle, it was assisted suicide!" - Zephyr (Resonance of Fate) |
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HimuraBattousai Kagami Yagami

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| Zippy Wonderdog wrote: | | At any rate you could always start an online petition and appeal the rating if you feel strongly enough about it. |
Actually, if you felt strongly enough about it and actually wanted results, you'd pay the fee to get the OFLC to review their decision. _________________ Funya | Opinionated Anime Reviews |
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Slykura Madman Staff

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Greoboruri Linn Syun-Rock Dreu Haider Jinto

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Slykura wrote: | I think you're all forgetting about how:
[Insert Spoilers Here] | I'm watching the show in broadcast order, but I'll have another look tonight at the DVD release. Still, the US version has a recommended rating of 13+.
| Slykura wrote: | | Azumanga was rated MA due to Kimura Sensei. | Which was a crap decision. I've watched that DVD a few times and still can't get over the fact it was rated that high. Got a "12" in the UK by BBFC, recommended 13+ in the US. It's just mind boggling. The OFLC are just so out of step with the rest of the world and average Australians.
There's no point in having by having the decision appealed, you're just throwing your hard earned money away. _________________ Schaft Enterprises
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FireAza Fate Testarossa

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Zippy Wonderdog wrote: | | .... I guess the censors know what they are doing but I do wonder. |
HA! Now there's a laugh! The OFLC wouldn't a truly offensive program from a hole in the head. _________________ I have a blog! (it helps if you imagine it in Martin Luther King's voice) |
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klown911_2002 BT

Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: Murarrie / BBHC
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Slykura wrote: | I think you're all forgetting about how:
Mikuru was essentially forced into being molested by the computer club president (unwillingly). They are all under age as well, as such, illegal, immoral, and well it can influence others, that's what the OFLC may think anyway. |
LOL! That's right; and that would do it I guess. _________________ Information Is Absolute Power, Absolute Power Is An Illusion.
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Zippy Wonderdog Mayuko Chigasaki

Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 956 Location: A dark, dark house, in a dark, dark wood.
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klown911_2002 BT

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Zippy Wonderdog wrote: | But its so tongue in cheek that only the sickest pervert would derive any sort of sexual pleasure from that.
Ah! Thats it the censorship office must be run by sexual deviants  |
HAHA! QFT. _________________ Information Is Absolute Power, Absolute Power Is An Illusion.
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Viking Akiha Tohno

Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 2907 Location: Gold Coast
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Zippy Wonderdog wrote: |
But its so tongue in cheek that only the sickest pervert would derive any sort of sexual pleasure from that.
Ah! Thats it the censorship office must be run by sexual deviants |
The sexual pleasure the viewer gains from it is irrelevant, Mikuru does get mollested against her will, and it is obviously traumatic to Mikuru.
thats it.... and that is enough to warrant a higher rating. I am sure there are girls out there that have been in a similar situation that did not find it so funny when it was happening to them.
**feel free to prove me wrong on this next bit, just an assumption on my part on how shows are rated**
Thing about ratings is they are not really done "as a whole"
An episode or movie is broken up into scenes and each scene is looked at essentially out of context. They are then rated according to it's 'worst' element's. Or at least thats how the system apears to work.
Which is why Azumanga Diaoh's rating does not fit.... and why Haruhi's feel's a little high (but this is an adult show, both in concept and content)
I would have thought Haruhi would get a M rating, but I can understand the MA 15+ even though it feels a tad high to me. _________________ "That wasn't a battle, it was assisted suicide!" - Zephyr (Resonance of Fate) |
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Greoboruri Linn Syun-Rock Dreu Haider Jinto

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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Viking wrote: | The sexual pleasure the viewer gains from it is irrelevant, Mikuru does get mollested against her will, and it is obviously traumatic to Mikuru.
thats it.... and that is enough to warrant a higher rating. I am sure there are girls out there that have been in a similar situation that did not find it so funny when it was happening to them. | I watched this episode with the scene in question last night, and I still don't understand why it got an MA15+. This is Benny Hill stuff, not some horrifying sexual assault scene. It's nuts. There's no nudity, no violence, no bad language and it gets and MA15+ for a clearly staged and comic blackmail scene. I mean an "M" rating for sure for mature themes, but it's not an MA15+ title. _________________ Schaft Enterprises
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marklungo Hajime Saitou

Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 186 Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: |
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The Madboards' banner ad for Haruhi lists the show as having a PG rating. I guess that'll have to be changed... _________________ "Running a team of vigilante bounty hunters is something that I've always aspired to do."--Tim Anderson
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Slykura Madman Staff

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Zippy Wonderdog Mayuko Chigasaki

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Slykura Madman Staff

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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Zippy Wonderdog wrote: | | I think madman should appeal the decision, it might actually effect sales to a degree. |
It costs $3000+ to appeal. It also costs money to hire a lawyer to present the case. We will not be appealing the decision as this does not affect whether we can release this title or not. It's not banned. You just have to be 15 or have your parent buy it for you if you are under 15. _________________ Screening Room+
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CG Yukino Miyazawa

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think that the rating is too far off. Haruhi practically rapes Mikuru on certain occasions (exaggeration). Still, I would have give it an M rating instead, but it's not my decision. _________________ digtrioPortable - Twitter |
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klown911_2002 BT

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Spoiler tags dude.
| CruelGenesis wrote: | | Haruhi practically rapes Mikuru on certain occasions (exaggeration) | Fixed.
Yeah I lol'd. _________________ Information Is Absolute Power, Absolute Power Is An Illusion.
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Slykura Madman Staff

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fallenangelash Kenshin Himura

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Slykura wrote: | In more interesting developments. Volumes 3 and 4 are now both rated.
They are both PG. |
lol... big jump from MA. |
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madmangohan Noooooooooooooooo

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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The OFLC are wierd like that. _________________ Densha Otoko Is My Hero!!!
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DocForry Motoko Kusanagi

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Slykura wrote: | In more interesting developments. Volumes 3 and 4 are now both rated.
They are both PG. |
Thus proving that the OFLC are completely insane. _________________ Why are you looking at me as if I know something about what you are talking about?
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Nargun Siegfried Kircheis

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| DocForry wrote: | | Thus proving that the OFLC are completely insane. |
Have you ever actually read the OFLC classification guidelines? |
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ZaTz Doraemon

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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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To be honest I was surpised. I was in queue with it and my friend pointed out it was ma 15+, yeah I thought why? Then re-thought it does make sense like someone else mentioned (sorry im too lazy to look back and see who) it does have strong sexual references.
But vol 3 is only pg...not sure bout vol 4. _________________ By killing one person, you reduce greenhouse gas admissions.
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fallenangelash Kenshin Himura

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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ZaTz wrote: | To be honest I was surpised. I was in queue with it and my friend pointed out it was ma 15+, yeah I thought why? Then re-thought it does make sense like someone else mentioned (sorry im too lazy to look back and see who) it does have strong sexual references.
But vol 3 is only pg...not sure bout vol 4. |
.... just read up
| Slykura wrote: | In more interesting developments. Volumes 3 and 4 are now both rated.
They are both PG. |
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Awex Shana

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Damn you OFLC >_> Now I have to wait another 16 months untill my parents let me buy it... *Shighs* _________________ Steam / 3DS Friend Code: 4553 9983 2460
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chibi_ric Lin Minmay

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Zippy Wonderdog wrote: | But its so tongue in cheek that only the sickest pervert would derive any sort of sexual pleasure from that.
Ah! Thats it the censorship office must be run by sexual deviants  |
LOL! Thatr sure would explain a lot!  |
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Loki4life Doraemon

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've only jsut turned 15 (Anzac Day, Happy Birthday to Me!) but being pretty immature, the MA rating was worrying me a bit. But after reading this thread I've decided not to let that stop me
I mean, this series looks great. It might be kind of embarrassing to actually buy it, though, considering I sure as hell don't LOOK 15. And how to tell my mother I'm watching an MA rated anime, considering she doesn't even LIKE anime that much.... Ah, well.
Like I said, I don't think anything'll stop me from watching Haruhi! |
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Slykura Madman Staff

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Loki4life Doraemon

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Thanks, very helpful maybe I will... unless it has the rating on the collector's box (which I will get).... but you know, it's not as if she goes through my stuff, she probably wouldn't be fussed. |
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Shinji 3.141 Tina Foster

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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The box has a bellyband with the rating on it, so you can just take it of.
edit: Hey does anyone else have a delete button on there post next to the edit and quote button?
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Andy20 Doraemon

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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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The simple fact of the matter is it's the age of the characters that's brought about such a 'bold' rating. They are teenagers remember.
(Don't recall the specific ages; and hardly familiar with the Japanese schooling/grading system )
It's not the (not that frequent) 'compromising situations' thats the major factor; but the age of the characters in them.
That's why 'Steel Angel Kurumi', practically the queen of all 'fanservice' titles, can get away with tonnes of 'naughtiness' with only an M 15+ rating; as the 'Angels' are certainly adult in age and appearance (but hardly in personality )
Certainly is an intriguing issue, and one that's been with Anime for some time. Remember 'Evangelion'; I swear that show gets seriously borderline MA sometimes  _________________ Emoti-cons; TRANSFORM! lol |
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Shinji 3.141 Tina Foster

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| Andy20 wrote: | | That's why 'Steel Angel Kurumi', practically the queen of all 'fanservice' titles |
You’ve obviously never heard of Najica; myself I’d only put Karumi at a mid level of fanservice at best  _________________ Watashi Wa Nekomata
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Andy20 Doraemon

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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You’ve obviously never heard of Najica; myself I’d only put Karumi at a mid level of fanservice at best Wink |
Well maybe I was a bit hasty labeling Kurumi as 'queen' of fanservice, but come on, it'd certainly be in the 'royal family'
(Yay, consistent metaphors )
I heard of Najica, and I'd love to see Najica (for the storyline and characterisation, of course ), but I probably never will; unless Madman considers bringing it over here
P.S. Changed my mind; Ikki Tousen is officially the 'Queen' of Fanservice  _________________ Emoti-cons; TRANSFORM! lol |
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Shinji 3.141 Tina Foster

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| Andy20 wrote: | I heard of Najica, and I'd love to see Najica (for the storyline and characterisation, of course ), but I probably never will; unless Madman considers bringing it over here
P.S. Changed my mind; Ikki Tousen is officially the 'Queen' of Fanservice  |
This is Najica…
This
This
And umm... this
That about sums it up; in fact my friend said he was intimidated by the extreme frequency of the fanservice.
Ps: sorry for the off topic. _________________ Watashi Wa Nekomata
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Andy20 Doraemon

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| Quote: | This is Najica…
This
This
And umm... this |
HO-LY CRAP
That's a whole new level
Hmm, rating, rating....G?
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totally off-topic but that last picture has "Tallis material" written all over it.... >_> _________________ Want a FREE TICKET? Click here!!
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Darth Tallis Kyon

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| Andy20 wrote: | | Quote: | This is Najica…
This
This
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HO-LY CRAP
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Ah, Najica. Gotta love it. Aika's pretty good, too.
| Phoenix85 wrote: | | totally off-topic but that last picture has "Tallis material" written all over it.... >_> |
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Andy20 Doraemon

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| Quote: | | Ah, Najica. Gotta love it. Aika's pretty good, too. |
"The Fanservice collection; coming soon from Madman Entertainment"
PLEASE!!!  _________________ Emoti-cons; TRANSFORM! lol |
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Phoenix85 Ryuk

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rofl. nice work _________________ Want a FREE TICKET? Click here!!
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ichigo ten thousand Doraemon
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Haruhi is now Rated PG That's Good But Vol.1 & Vol.2 a Big Mistake!  _________________ Member of SOS Brigade Australia and The Madman FanZone and The MadBoards! |
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Andy20 Doraemon

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Totally love how this thread gradually morphed from a legitimate discussion of the intricacies of the rating system to a 'who's got the perviest pic' contest  _________________ Emoti-cons; TRANSFORM! lol |
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Mr popo Nene Romanova

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| Well the old Dragonball Z releases were rated M. The new versions are the same content and are classified PG (well most of them). There is no explanation for that. |
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SaiyamanMS Minawa Andou

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| Mr popo wrote: | | Well the old Dragonball Z releases were rated M. The new versions are the same content and are classified PG (well most of them). There is no explanation for that. |
Well, to get nit-picky, the old releases had a little more visual content on the top and bottom.
(Of course, that is an extremely nit-picky point, as that really doesn't make too much difference. Especially from the point of view of rating classification of the content. >_>) _________________ I challenged Ash Ketchum to a Pokémon Battle.
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Nargun Siegfried Kircheis

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| Mr popo wrote: | | Well the old Dragonball Z releases were rated M. The new versions are the same content and are classified PG (well most of them). There is no explanation for that. |
The enforcement of the ratings guidelines shifts slightly over time; they're based on "community standards", and the original classification of DBZ was quite some few years ago.
It's not as amusing as what happened to ET, but still. _________________ Zettai Unmei Mokushiroku |
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Phoenix85 Ryuk

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What happened to ET?
(never sat down and watched it through myself. Thought it was a terrible film) _________________ Want a FREE TICKET? Click here!!
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