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epyon_zero
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Porn in my anime section? Reply with quote
Has anyone ealse notice that ezydvd and JB HI-FI have been adding porn into thier anime sections alot lately?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are you referring to recent Siren Hentai releases, or good old fashioned smut?
If answer is yes to the hentai, then yes. Yes I have noticed. And laughed every time I see it
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Porn in my anime section? Reply with quote
epyon_zero wrote:
Has anyone ealse notice that ezydvd and JB HI-FI have been adding porn into thier anime sections alot lately?


It sez "anime". It don't say "anime what's not porn and not shyte"; 's'why Siren gets a guernsey at all.

Y'get wha' sez on t'box.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The JB Hifi in Brisbane city has has H titles for a loooong time now Razz I wonder if they sell well?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hell, one of the JBs in the Melbourne CBD even has a subsection on the anime shelves labelled hentai.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Perth's JB HI-FI has a small section, but my friend and I are pretty sure it's illegal.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quicksilver_ wrote:
Perth's JB HI-FI has a small section, but my friend and I are pretty sure it's illegal.


I'm curious, what makes you so sure of that? JB don't strike me as the sort of chain of stores to actually stock anything illegal.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some of the characters on the cover are so clearly loli it's not funny.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wat like little monica......i only looked. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quicksilver_ wrote:
Perth's JB HI-FI has a small section, but my friend and I are pretty sure it's illegal.


Town Hall JB has a row of it.
Everytime I pick one up and read the back of it, I get the feeling I'm being watched. lol
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
At the JB near me (Knox), at first it was spread out amongst the anime, then one day it was all crammed together dead center of the anime section.
It does make it a bit embarrassing when looking at anything near it and there's ten other people in the aisle.

I get a bit of a laugh out of it whenever a new title appears, not that I'm looking......
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Siren did have the combo Girl Next Door/Campus release before separating them. I can't remember which one of those had me laughing my head off.

Siren must be doing pretty well selling hentai, since they're releasing new titles on a regular basis. Pretty hard to ignore when the hentai section keeps getting larger on the anime shelves. This is at JB-hifi Town Hall Sydney.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
JESTER wrote:
Siren must be doing pretty well selling hentai, since they're releasing new titles on a regular basis.
Not to mention getting many more refused classification by the OFLC on a regular basis too Razz Seeing as how they're releasing so many new titles, they must be selling, I wonder how well? Maybe if it's a lucrative market Madman could get into it too. I giggle at the potential label names and logos Madman could use Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
December wrote:
Town Hall JB has a row of it.
Everytime I pick one up and read the back of it, I get the feeling I'm being watched. lol

I watch you. You're sick. You need help.

Actually, they fly off the shelves pretty quick. Unless JB send them back to Siren.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
FireAza wrote:
I giggle at the potential label names and logos Madman could use Very Happy


The existing logo works fine. Mmm, bondage Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah ... and it's been kind of bugging me as the one in Bris has them fairly spread out so no matter what you're looking at there's a hentai right next to it. As it is the covers are pretty graphic too ... actually sort of strange considering the number of kids around.

When I was in Melbourne though I actually asked one of the guys stocking the shelves what the deal was, and did they even sell that well. Apparently they fly out ... or maybe it's just Melbourne ... but he reckoned that they have to restock the hentai every morning as has some of the highest turnover of any anime titles!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quicksilver_ wrote:
Perth's JB HI-FI has a small section, but my friend and I are pretty sure it's illegal.

Are you mad hentai isnt illegal.....its rather enjoyable to watch Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm curious, what makes you so sure of that? JB don't strike me as the sort of chain of stores to actually stock anything illegal.

I don't think I've seen a rating on the hentai they have. I could be wrong, and that was about two months ago, but I never saw a rating on the hentai then.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Foxy wrote:
Are you mad hentai isnt illegal.....its rather enjoyable to watch Embarassed


In general, no it is not illegal. If you look at specific cases, however, then yes, there can be specific titles that are illegal to sell. I believe that is what Quicksilver was suggesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just had a quick look through the JB website (my local JB opens in about a month) and they are all rated. A couple are NTSC releases.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Perth's JB HI-FI has a small section, but my friend and I are pretty sure it's illegal.
No, they've all been rated by the OFLC. I've never, ever seen JB HiFi stock any bootlegs of any kind, nor R1 imports of any DVD.

I recall a few months back the Siren hentai DVD covers had pictures of the characters (waaay over endowed) breasts, but the newer covers have no nudity.

To get these titles rated R, I'm assuming there had to have been a load of cuts. I can't see why anyone would bother releasing this stuff, but it seems to be selling. None of the adult video companies/stores in Canberra stock this stuff, and they probably wouldn't bother with it either due to the way X censorship laws work in this country. Plus the porn shops in Sydney sell bootlegs of uncut hentai at prices they couldn't compete with anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I always make fun of my girlfreind when she goes to look at anime at JB Hi-fi now.

There everywere, hell even our Blockbuster has hentai in (Despite there guarntee not to stock porn, I don't think you could really mistake Night Shift Nurses for anything else)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wouldn't be surprised if they sell well. I remember an Ezydvd I visited had like 6 or so copies of 'campus/girl next door' and all but one was left the next week.
I do find it interesting how they're crammed in the same section as anime dvds though. Maybe a ploy to sell more anime perhaps...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anime, porn, it's all the same genre.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No, they've all been rated by the OFLC. I've never, ever seen JB HiFi stock any bootlegs of any kind, nor R1 imports of any DVD.

I recall a few months back the Siren hentai DVD covers had pictures of the characters (waaay over endowed) breasts, but the newer covers have no nudity.



Had another look at lunch, and I think I know the one you are referring to 'Anyone you can do' or something lol. Basically massive naked cartoon breasts on the front cover ... and that's not including about a half-dozen bondage titles with fairly obvious covers (well you'e not about to confuse them for Bambi! Shocked )
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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As it is the covers are pretty graphic too ... actually sort of strange considering the number of kids around.

I'd wondered that too, I thought there were restrictions on the content you could have on a DVD covers? And with today's "not my responsibility" attitude parents have, I'm surprised someone hasn't stamped them feet saying their kids were corrupted by seeing one of the covers of the H DVDs at JB.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is loli hentai actually illegal in Australia? I didn't think it was.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, they will probably just wait until a parent buys it for a child and then they will complain. Of course this being after they made the OFLC change the ratings to make them far more obvious so that CHILDREN couldn't miss them.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paludis wrote:
Is loli hentai actually illegal in Australia? I didn't think it was.


As far as I know, by the letter of the law yes it is.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would have thought that child pornography laws also covered animated children as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Schmavid wrote:
I would have thought that child pornography laws also covered animated children as well.


It's unclear.

HOWEVER, it doesn't matter, since they are covered by the OFLC regs and thereby banninated.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've actually never come across a hentai title in-store before, not even at rental stores. I think I'm either not looking hard enough (not that I've ever looked for it mind you) or it's not easily available.

I would lawl if I saw somebody purchasing it. I don't think I could ever purchase any hentai, or even "real" pornography, at a store.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Every time I walk past the selection at any Jb's I'm reminded of that time I was reading the back of some title I can't remember not noticing the people around me until I heard someone breathing in deeply and licking his lips while holding (at least) 1 of the hentais, everyone gave him the room he needed. I guess its rather funny looking back at it now but thats not an image I would like to see in a hell of a long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'd wondered that too, I thought there were restrictions on the content you could have on a DVD covers? And with today's "not my responsibility" attitude parents have, I'm surprised someone hasn't stamped them feet saying their kids were corrupted by seeing one of the covers of the H DVDs at JB.


All I know is, when I posted a copy of the original siren/girl-next-door cover here as an example of crimes against graphic design, Sly yanked it [ha!] as an example of a crime-against-taste.

Wouldn't even let me link to it, th'bastard.

The new covers are somewhat better, in much the same way that getting an eggbeater shoved up your clacker is "somewhat better" than an outboard motor.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The new covers are somewhat better, in much the same way that getting an eggbeater shoved up your clacker is "somewhat better" than an outboard motor.


I wonder if the OFLC would let that scene pass...

Am I the only one wondering if there is a forum where someone has started a topic complaining about kids shows invading their porn section?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I wonder if the OFLC would let that scene pass...


Gods, I hope not. Also congratulations Nargun, you've just outdone yourself for the most painful mental image you've given me. The previous title holder lasted a good few years.

Elric of Grans wrote:
Am I the only one wondering if there is a forum where someone has started a topic complaining about kids shows invading their porn section?


Probably. But if there were, I wouldn't be all that surprised.
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I wonder if the OFLC would let that scene pass...


Not for X, absolutely; BDSM + Actual Sex is a one-way ticket to RC City.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have two of the titles that SIREN has released and no I'm not going near loli...I'm not into it >.>
They always say that the girls depicted in hentai series are always over the age of 18 but they're soooo lying <lol>
Who else buys them?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jester buys H titles although he imports them AFAIK

for me, H titles don't interest me that much, much like real porn. You see one peen0r go into a vag00, you've seen em all basically =p
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It is illegal in Australia to have representations of underage sex so I am pretty sure the Siren H releases are cut. For example the local release of Cool Devices only has 6 of the 11 stories found in the US release.

Even some of the US releases get cut like Hooligan which had a section removed due to an underage character.

I am waiting to see if they are game enough to release Night Shift Nurses 2. Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Jester buys H titles although he imports them AFAIK

for me, H titles don't interest me that much, much like real porn. You see one peen0r go into a vag00, you've seen em all basically =p

I have bought a few Siren titles as well, but they use the one US company like TNT did with Geneon. Also their titles appear to be the older hentai titles and not the newer ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I would lawl if I saw somebody purchasing it. I don't think I could ever purchase any hentai, or even "real" pornography, at a store.


You've never worked in a retail outlet? Person comes up to counter, places item/s on counter, you scan them through, charge them and bag the items. They then leave and you serve another customer. People working at supermarkets and such don't care what you're buying, they're waiting to finish their shift so that they can go home. Pretty much if you wander up and be blatantly shameless about what you're buying, they'll forget about it. Just don't buy *ahem* protective one-use devices *ahem* on their own. My friend told us something about a guy who was buying a packet of said devices, and had covered them with packets of breath mints. Her exact words to us were: "Did he think that I wasn't going to pick them up or something?"
The point: As a consumer, if you want something which falls inside the limits of the law, and have the means to pay for it, you're entitled to buy it. Even though there can be an element of Embarassed involved. But that's why online shopping was invented, ne?

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in much the same way that getting an eggbeater shoved up your clacker is "somewhat better" than an outboard motor.


No kidding. I'll have to use that analogy somewhere.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I have two of the titles that SIREN has released and no I'm not going near loli...I'm not into it >.>
They always say that the girls depicted in hentai series are always over the age of 18 but they're soooo lying <lol>
Who else buys them?


That's pretty much the "trick", say they're legal even though they don't look like it. It's the reason why Moetan is hardly censored in Japan TV compared to Kodomo no Jikan. KnJ states they're elementary girls so that's why it's massively censored for broadcast because they didn't use the "trick". Of course it only works within reason but KnJ doesn't do itself any favors in terms of age of the lolis.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That's pretty much the "trick", say they're legal even though they don't look like it. It's the reason why Moetan is hardly censored in Japan TV compared to Kodomo no Jikan. KnJ states they're elementary girls so that's why it's massively censored for broadcast because they didn't use the "trick". Of course it only works within reason but KnJ doesn't do itself any favors in terms of age of the lolis.

I don't think you could redo KnJ with a high school setting without losing basically the whole point of the series though. IMO the broadcast version is just a glorified ad to make you buy the uncensored DVD's.
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It is illegal in Australia to have representations of underage sex so I am pretty sure the Siren H releases are cut. For example the local release of Cool Devices only has 6 of the 11 stories found in the US release.

Even some of the US releases get cut like Hooligan which had a section removed due to an underage character.

I am waiting to see if they are game enough to release Night Shift Nurses 2. Shocked


Do you really think daily Australians stop to look at anime titles better yet Hentai titles?
I barely see anyone in my JB_hifi stores checkin' out Anime/Hentai titles unless they really are into it. So, maybe they're not concerned about it?

They probably would get into strife if someone reported them.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paludis wrote:
IMO the broadcast version is just a glorified ad to make you buy the uncensored DVD's.


In most cases, TV broadcast anime is either a glorified ad for the DVD release and/or merchandise.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
*waves*

I work for JB in their DVD section and for as long as I can remember we've carried hentai titles.

It's nothing new =O

I'd like to point out that this
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Perth's JB HI-FI has a small section, but my friend and I are pretty sure it's illegal.
Made both myself and my manager laugh so hard.

We buy our hentai titles from a minor supplier, it's completely legit. The only reason you guys are seeing more and more, is they are releasing a hell of alot more titles. I'll give you a lil tip, if you don't wish to see the hentai titles, then don't pick up the ones that have a white spine and pink bubbleish writing.

I don't really care that we carry it, but some of the images are a tad full on, and I worry that some parent is gonna crack the poos. (I just remembered, you couldn't swear lol)

But as I read earlier about it 'flying out the door', it really does.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
anime_queen wrote:
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Do you really think daily Australians stop to look at anime titles better yet Hentai titles?
I barely see anyone in my JB_hifi stores checkin' out Anime/Hentai titles unless they really are into it. So, maybe they're not concerned about it?

They probably would get into strife if someone reported them.


Unlike the US all our DVD releases have to go through the OFLC. In 2006 Siren submitted DARLING, HOOLIGAN, SPOTLIGHT, and MY BROTHER'S WIFE and all were refused. They have now been passed after appropriate cuts. An excellent resource: http://www.refused-classification.com/

As more H titles become available, I can picture some clueless parent or grandparent picking up a copy of Maple Colours for the kiddies.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mddawson wrote:
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Unlike the US all our DVD releases have to go through the OFLC. In 2006 Siren submitted DARLING, HOOLIGAN, SPOTLIGHT, and MY BROTHER'S WIFE and all were refused. They have now been passed after appropriate cuts. An excellent resource: http://www.refused-classification.com/

As more H titles become available, I can picture some clueless parent or grandparent picking up a copy of Maple Colours for the kiddies.


I thought about that too when I noticed that the legend of the overfiend movies were sitting in the childrens section haha...must of raised a few eye brows there.
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