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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shinji 3.141 wrote:
I donít thing that would be a good idea, MM have for the most part only released ďrespectableĒ titles, which creates a certain good image; like this bord for example itís clean and has a pleasant atmosphere (perhaps excluding some of Tallisís images Wink )


and this thread Laughing

i'm surprised this thread came back to life, that there are more (in depth) talk about this, that the thread hasn't been closed, and that you can still find those titles, I may not have looked very hard Razz but that 1 title all those months ago has been the only one I ever saw
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shinji 3.141 wrote:
(perhaps excluding some of Tallisís images Wink )


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tallis, one look at your avatar kind of says it all
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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plus there is already a company releasing more than enough H titles Razz


I wonder if they'll release boxsets for them...would be cool!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wonder what you would call a boxset like that... "Box 'o' Booty"?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
T'n'A collection? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wish they would have a nice sale on hentai at JB Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can just see the sign that advertises that...

"Cheap porn". Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I can just see the sign that advertises that...

"Cheap porn". Razz


Cheap Cartoon Porn?

That makes me remember about a time that I went to JB Hi-Fi and I was looking at the glory of the giant wall space full of anime, when an older man with his daughter appears beside me and the dad starts explaining content within anime and how she should be watching the good anime only.
Then, I notice him picking up a hentai dvd and showing it to his young daughter and saying that "this title is a no no for you sweetie"...
I was staring at them going...was it necessary for him to shove that sinful dvd in that innocent childs face?
I'm pretty sure she looked at and went...why do those cartoon girls look so happy and naked?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What the...? How old was the kid, 4? 14?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I wonder what you would call a boxset like that... "Box 'o' Booty"?


No its called Speed Grapher Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What the...? How old was the kid, 4? 14?


She looked like she was about 4 years old. Which was why I was a bit dumbfounded...but oh, well!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just went into my JB Hi-Fi store today and purchased the Project A-Ko Collection when the woman at the counter starting scanning my boxset. She then asked..."This isn't one of those really adult cartoons is it?"
I stared at her thinking...Omg, she's onto me when she told me that their hentai collection up for sale has been removed because their manager didn't like the idea one bit.

Did this happen to anyone else's JB Hi-Fi?
Are all hentai dvds in local stores doomed to exist??

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I noticed recently that the Hentai section at my local JB-HIFI suddenly disappeared. It was never that big to begin with though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, the staff members at my local JB Hi-Fi store seemed dissapointed because they said they were really good sellers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I stared at her thinking...Omg, she's onto me when she told me that their hentai collection up for sale has been removed because their manager didn't like the idea one bit.

So that's where JB Brisbane City's H titles went... I mean, I know nothing about this!

Kinda surprised this didn't happen sooner actually. It's also doubly surprising because JB used to have such a big, prominent collection.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Well, the staff members at my local JB Hi-Fi store seemed dissapointed because they said they were really good sellers.

lol, for sure. Never have bought one myself to be honest.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
FireAza wrote:
[..]


So that's where JB Brisbane City's H titles went... I mean, I know nothing about this!

Kinda surprised this didn't happen sooner actually. It's also doubly surprising because JB used to have such a big, prominent collection.


But why get rid of such things when so many people are interested??
Not to say any of you are...<coughs>

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can understand that maybe an individual manager might be completely against the idea, and carry enough clout that he's able to get them removed from his store, but nation-wide? Shall have to see if Indooroopilly still has their titles.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I just went into my JB Hi-Fi store today and purchased the Project A-Ko Collection when the woman at the counter starting scanning my boxset. She then asked..."This isn't one of those really adult cartoons is it?"


I find the fact that it was A-ko you were buying when this happened to by highly amusing since internet lore holds that Project A-ko was oringinally intended to by a hentai series.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not too surprised ... I mean JB seems to have a policy to not sell live-action porn, but makes an exception for animated porn? I always found this contradiction a but confusing.

I also noticed they were starting to phase out/reshelve the hentai that was on stock, but I don't know how much of a seller the stuff was. One of the guys I talked to actually made the comment they can be a bit of a pain because they are one of the titles people shoplift most often. Lol must be to avoid the A-ko controversy Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Both Sydney City Store have removed the Hentai titles.

Just when I got the courage up to buy one Razz

Oh well I still think that you can get your Hentai fix at Ezydvd stores Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Not too surprised ... I mean JB seems to have a policy to not sell live-action porn, but makes an exception for animated porn? I always found this contradiction a but confusing.
This is not true. If you wander down to the "Special Interests" section, you will find plenty of R18+ titles like the "Girls Gone Wild"series, Playboy and other softcore titles. There's even a section dedicated to adult titles on their website.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had no idea that Project A-ko was intended to be one of those titles. I've heard of no such thing. I just bought it because I liked the anime the first time I saw it!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
it wasn't intended to in the first place
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
speedfreek19 wrote:
it wasn't intended to in the first place
Um, yes it was.
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Project A-ko was initially planned to be part of the Cream Lemon series of hentai OVAs, but during the production of the series it was decided to make it into a more mainstream title. The only sequence animated during its Cream Lemon days left in the revised production is B-ko's private bath scene. In a nod to Project A-ko's origins as a Cream Lemon episode, the owner and several working girls from the brothel in the Cream Lemon episode "Pop Chaser" can be seen in one of the classrooms A-ko and B-ko crash through during a fight sequence in the first Project A-ko OVA.


EDIT: Siren's just had two previously released hentai titles banned; Holy Virgins and Bondage Mansion. The reason seems to be that the characters are suposedly under 18 (how the hell does that work? It's animation). Hence the reason why they've been pulled from stores. Why do Siren continue to do this? They must be losing a ton of money. And it's not just hentai titles they've had censorship problems with.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, it doesn't matter what the audience enjoys; they won't sell it because they don't like it?
I; agree that some characters don't look their age but then alter it so it is sold in pornographic stores not local stores.
When I first saw Hentai at JB Hi-Fi I was a little puzzled by their location. It would of made more sense to hide these films within pornographic stores to avoid mothers being offended by such films.

There's no list in Australia stating which Hentai titles are allowed in Australia and which ones are not?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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There's no list in Australia stating which Hentai titles are allowed in Australia and which ones are not?
It's called the OFLC site <<
If its been classified at some stage, you'll find it there, or alternatively go visit refused classification for whats not been allowed so far.
However if you're importing the title for personal use, then from memory only the refused classification stuff may be an issue. I can't remember what customs can actually do in the way of dvds, but i'd assume its the same for games, in which if something thats been refused gets found, they'll not let you have it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, I'm sorry. I guess I should just continued reading that site as I was on it not long ago.
Thanks madmangohan.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I; agree that some characters don't look their age but then alter it so it is sold in pornographic stores not local stores.
First if the characters are under 18 (though how exactly determine the age of a drawing is beyond me), you can't sell it ANYWHERE legally in Australia. Two, porn shops generally don't sell this stuff, at least the legal ones. You'll find that some outside NT and ACT which illegally sell X18+ videos do, but it's bootlegged and most likely stuff that would be refused classification if the OFLC saw it. I have previously covered this stuff in this thread.

The thing which gets me here is if these titles were so bad, how come they let the public buy them for almost two months before banning them? Seems pretty dumb to me.
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When I first saw Hentai at JB Hi-Fi I was a little puzzled by their location. It would of made more sense to hide these films within pornographic stores to avoid mothers being offended by such films.
They were R18+ rated, so there is no need to hide them. Other R18+ film and softcore titles aren't. However some covers were pretty darn dodgy (more so than Madman's cover for Anatomy of Hell), and if it's anything like my local JB Hi-Fi putting them above or next to the Ghibli films was a dumb, dumb idea.
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However if you're importing the title for personal use, then from memory only the refused classification stuff may be an issue. I can't remember what customs can actually do in the way of dvds, but i'd assume its the same for games, in which if something thatís been refused gets found, they'll not let you have it.
No, even if the OFLC haven't seen it, they may take it if they deem to could be offensive. What "offensive" exactly is, is pretty vague. I think generally if you don't get hentai stuff, you're pretty much OK. In fact none of my packages have been looked at by Customs for ages. I've never had anything taken. Some stuff taxed, but never taken.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: JB Reply with quote
I know someone who works at JB and can confirm that nationwide the Hentai titles have been pulled from their shelves and all orders cancelled.

They weren't told the full story. Just that they'd no longer be selling hentai. Since it's really only the Siren range that's available they'd have lost a bit of business. There were several JBs that did quite well with hentai titles.

Still, the story that all staff are hearing is that one of the high high-ups in management found out what hentai was and that we were selling them (possibly via complaining mothers and the like?) and gave the word to end it all. They either didn't like the idea of JB selling the stuff, or didn't want any more complaints.

In any case, for you hentai fans, want titles? Go to the EzyDVD website and type "hentai" in the search bar. It'll bring up the whole Siren range including the upcoming titles (as they become known to EzyDVD).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: JB Reply with quote
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Still, the story that all staff are hearing is that one of the high high-ups in management found out what hentai was and that we were selling them (possibly via complaining mothers and the like?) and gave the word to end it all.
Right, so the covers (bondaged women, naked women covered in semen etc) and the actual names of the titles DIDN'T tip them off? Plus they already sell mainstream 18+ softcore adult titles and have an adult section on their website... Whatever. If the staff are going to put those titles right next or just above the Ghibli stuff, they deserve to get complaints. Stick them with the other adult DVDs in the "Special Interests" section. Could have saved a LOT of anguish and headaches.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Greoboruri wrote:
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This is not true. If you wander down to the "Special Interests" section, you will find plenty of R18+ titles like the "Girls Gone Wild"series, Playboy and other softcore titles. There's even a section dedicated to adult titles on their website.


Not quite the same thing. The web-site has always had separate policies to the stores, be it content, pricing etc. The ones in store are pretty much just straight skin, no action ... as opposed to say some princess bondage fetish or something.
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Not quite the same thing. [...]The ones in store are pretty much just straight skin, no action ... as opposed to say some princess bondage fetish or something.
First, the DVDs on the website are identical to those that appear in shops. I've seen the same titles that appear on the website while trying to find documentaries in the Special Interests section of their retail stores. Second, both the hentai titles and the adult live action titles are both rated R18+. It's the same thing. An adult title is an adult title. Doesn't matter if it's simulated and censored like the Siren titles or live action naked writhing women in some simulated sexual acts like the live action stuff.

Let's call a spade a spade here. They clearly and openly sell R18+ adult live action DVDs in their retail stores. The consumer warnings almost always say "Mostly Concerned with Sex". They're adult DVDs. You cannot describe them as anything else.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it was the best decision to drop those titles, do we really need that stuff being openly advertised in stores? if you want it, just go order it online somewhere
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Adults aren't allowed to buy adult titles? Really they should of just been with the other adult rated movies, that way there wouldn't of been as much of an issue, instead of lumping them with the rest of the anime

They weren't really openly advertised, they were just there, sometimes you had to look for them
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think its weird, at my local ezydvd store they just lump all the H titles in with their Anime titles (in alphabetical order no less) so if you were just browsing their Anime stock you have to go through the H stock as well. Maybe this is just a case of "oh its all anime"?

As for adults not being able to buy adult products, I'm of two minds about it. 1) If you want adult material, go the usual route and get it online or through adult stores. 2) if material like this was deemed suitable by the management for sale on the floor, then shouldn't it have been handled a little more responsibly? I wouldn't be the most impressed person if my kid was looking through "cartoon" dvds only to find a heap of H disks Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
it's more of a matter of proper education and locating them to a suitable marked area, that way adults can buy their adult stuff and everyone else can buy what they want. Why should we hide things? I've seen adult rated dvds at sanity and video ezy in plain sight and never really batted an eye

I mean yeah there is a point where you have to draw the line, being that if it's pretty expicit stuff well then it should be reserved for the adult stores and online purchases

It's just that hentai is being excepted cause it's animated, at least thats how i see it anyway
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It's just that hentai is being excepted cause it's animated, at least thats how i see it anyway


I saw it that way as well...that it was only targeted strongly because it was animated.

I definitely agree with Greoboruri, saying that placing adult content DVDs should be placed in one section, with all the other Adult titles.
Itís strange because when Campus/Girls Next Door was released, I found that this title was with all the other Adult titles you could buy at JB.
But, then as soon as more titles started coming in; it was relocated to the Anime section. But would it really make that much of difference if Hentai was located to the Adult section?
Would it prevent less complaints?

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I think it would if it was with the adult section, cause you wouldn't really see them unless you went over to the adult section
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Adults aren't allowed to buy adult titles?


who said that? I say if you want to buy that kind of stuff get it online or at a specialty store, though if what you say is true and JB Hi-Fi has an adult section then it should go along with that though i've never seen such a section, not that I've been looking Razz and we may be thinking of different things when the term 'adult section' comes up

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They weren't really openly advertised, they were just there,


yea soz, that was what I implying (I knew I was gonna be picked up on that wording Razz )
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
exe3 wrote:
I say if you want to buy that kind of stuff get it online or at a specialty store


Why should we though. Just because it's a little more taboo than the norm doesn't mean it has to be relegated to "specialty" stores or be forced to buy online

I don't know if there is an adult section in JB, i've only been to JB like twice, ever (the selling dvds type) but if there is, then well put them there
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isn't it called..."Special Interests" where the porno stuff is held?
In anycase, now that I found out that four hentai titles are being banned from Australia; I kinda want to get them now lol...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Holy virigns are still on sale at Ezydvd Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Timesplitter 01 wrote:
Holy virigns are still on sale at Ezydvd Laughing


I think you mean "Holy Virgins" is still on sale at EzyDVD, unless you're trying to suggest that EzyDVD is diversifying into EzyOtherThings.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Incidentally, "EzyGirls" is an awesome name for an escort service Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There sure were some of those at the EzyDVD I used to work at...

Ooh, that was cold!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nargun wrote:
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I think you mean "Holy Virgins" is still on sale at EzyDVD, unless you're trying to suggest that EzyDVD is diversifying into EzyOtherThings.


Couldnt resist poking fun Laughing and yes EzyGirls would make a good name Wink

Anyways Ezydvd Sydney CBD (off pitt street mall) store is still selling it.
I think it has about 10-15 Hentai DVD's
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can't blame them for still wanting to stock them. They sell like mad.
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