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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Ghost in the Shell live action Reply with quote
I'm not aware of an existing thread for this but if there is one then shut this one down please:
http://anime.about.com/b/2009/11/02/ghost-in-the-shell-live-action-movie.htm?nl=1
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think I read somewhere that Steven Spielberg will be directing this. Ghost In The Shell will work really well as a live action movie
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pearl wrote:
I think I read somewhere that Steven Spielberg will be directing this. Ghost In The Shell will work really well as a live action movie

Yeah, it mentions Steven Spielberg in the tiny article that I posted the link to although the information isn't very detailed. Will be interesting to see what happens with this and if it is going to be done, when it will actually be completed and ready for people to go see.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ghost In The Shell will work really well as a live action movie

that also means that it could very easily fail... there two ways it could go...
either it will work well or work badly...
EDIT: NUUUUUUUUU! not dreamworks! they ruin whatever they can get their hands on! i highly dislike dreamworks (trying not to use the word "hate") Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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that also means that it could very easily fail... there two ways it could go...
either it will work well or work badly...
EDIT: NUUUUUUUUU! not dreamworks! they ruin whatever they can get their hands on! i highly dislike dreamworks (trying not to use the word "hate") Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Sad
Your use of capital letters and multi emoticons seem to make up for your restraint in not using "hate". It seems you have already made your mind up about this and won't be seeing it then?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This would be great, not surprised there hasnt been a japanese live action considering how popular it is.
now when it says 3d do they mean appleseed style or like normal movies im confused.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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EDIT: NUUUUUUUUU! not dreamworks! they ruin whatever they can get their hands on


What have they ruined previously?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This would be great, not surprised there hasnt been a japanese live action considering how popular it is.
now when it says 3d do they mean appleseed style or like normal movies im confused.
I am confused about this as well, it says live action but then it kind of implies that it will be a 3DCGI so hopefully someone who knows more about this project will post in this thread and can shed some light on it for us.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some should clarify this.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
how can it be "live-action" and "cgi" unless its got live scenes and cgi scenes?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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how can it be "live-action" and "cgi" unless its got live scenes and cgi scenes?


The same way the Star Wars prequels were?

speedfreek19 wrote:
What have they ruined previously?


This. Seems more like "wah wah anime should not be touched by American hands" than anything
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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now when it says 3d do they mean appleseed style or like normal movies im confused.

I believe it means it'll be the dark glasses and the characters jumping out of the screen 3D.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shinji 3.141 wrote:
I believe it means it'll be the dark glasses and the characters jumping out of the screen 3D.

Yes, that is the impression I got also when reading the article Travku provided.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This. Seems more like "wah wah anime should not be touched by American hands" than anything


That's what i was thinking.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Seems more like "wah wah anime should not be touched by American hands" than anything
Laughing It happens every time doesn't it?

The screenwriter that is mentioned in the article has been involved X-Men, Tomb Raider amongst several others and is also connected to James Cameron's Battle Angel Alita project from what I have read.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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[..]

Laughing It happens every time doesn't it?

The screenwriter that is mentioned in the article has been involved X-Men, Tomb Raider amongst several others and is also connected to James Cameron's Battle Angel Alita project from what I have read.


When you said X-Men I was so hoping for David Hayter. But then when I read the article, it said someone else. So now I'm disappointed. Thank you very much!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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anime should not be touched by American hands" than anything


Agreed. I’m also dreading that a real King of Fighters movie is being made by Americans. Although it's based off a game series not an anime.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Agreed. I’m also dreading that a real King of Fighters movie is being made by Americans. Although it's based off a game series not an anime.
Why? Don't you think that is pretty narrow minded and judgemental? Should anime be only based solely on original Japanese concepts then? If that's the case then a lot of anime would not be around as it is based off ideas from other countries.
This has only got to the stage of having a screenwriter and studio attached to the project and people are already crying foul and boo hoo hoo about it. Why not wait until it is completed (if it is) and then make a judgement. How can it be possible to already decide something will be bad when it is not even made yet. What happens if it turns out to be the best film ever made, will you still not see it? It would be a shame if you missed out on something good because of elitist prejudgement.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ghost In The Shell should translate rather well into a live action film as it was a movie to begin with. Assuming that they are using only the first movie as the premise for the film and not forcefully inserting content from the animated series and second movie

Contrary to the plan to adapt Neon Genesis Evangelion into a live action film - I still firmly believe that won't work

That is neither here or there though and has already been discussed in another thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Agreed. I’m also dreading that a real King of Fighters movie is being made by Americans. Although it's based off a game series not an anime.


Uh, thanks for agreeing with me but I think you missed my point. The comments being made by some people in this thread seem to be nothing more than "wah wah Americans can't touch my scared japanese cartoons". And that vierw point is stupid, and poisonous.

The King of Fighters movie will be a bad movie because it has a horrendous script, acting and directing. Not because it is American.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The idea of a live-action GITS sounds pretty cool to me, especially if Speilberg handles it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The idea of a live-action GITS sounds pretty cool to me, especially if Speilberg handles it.

Yes, I think he will handle the film well. To use the parlance of the times, you could say it is right up his alley.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gouki wrote:

Seems more like "wah wah anime should not be touched by American hands" than anything

no that is definately not what i meant...
i mean i really don't like dreamworks films and im saying they ruin good concepts and stuff
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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no that is definately not what i meant...
i mean i really don't like dreamworks films and im saying they ruin good concepts and stuff


And you have not explained how they 'ruin good concepts and stuff'.
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Ghost In The Shell should translate rather well into a live action film as it was a movie to begin with


Uh, no it wasn't.
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With Steven Spielberg directing it shouldn't turn out that bad. Nothing can be worst then DragonBall Evolution.
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Uh, no it wasn't.

StorminNormin, I was aware that it was a Manga originally but the 1995 film is what would have inspired overseas Studios to create a live action adaptation

The film is what lured many punters to the franchise, so to speak.

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I was told that this wasn't that bad by most people. I haven't seen it myself yet though
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StorminNormin, I was aware that it was a Manga originally but the 1995 film is what would have inspired overseas Studios to create a live action adaptation

The film is what lured many punters to the franchise, so to speak.


The movie may have been what got the name out there, but that doesn't change the fact that you were wrong when you said Ghost in the Shell was originally a film when it was a comic.
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I was told that this wasn't that bad by most people. I haven't seen it myself yet though


It's not that bad compared to a poke in the eyes for 80 minutes
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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With Steven Spielberg directing it shouldn't turn out that bad. Nothing can be worst then DragonBall Evolution.
If you don't sit around and compare Dragonball Evolution to the Dragonball manga or the original anime series then it is a harmless and entertaining cheesy film. I think people have over reacted to this as there have been much worse films released.
As for Steven Spielberg directing the LA of GITS, that has not been confirmed at this stage has it? As far as I can tell it is just Dreamworks that has bought the rights to make it so that doesn't automatically make Spielberg the director.
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Travku wrote:
[..]

If you don't sit around and compare Dragonball Evolution to the Dragonball manga or the original anime series then it is a harmless and entertaining cheesy film. I think people have over reacted to this as there have been much worse films released.
As for Steven Spielberg directing the LA of GITS, that has not been confirmed at this stage has it? As far as I can tell it is just Dreamworks that has bought the rights to make it so that doesn't automatically make Spielberg the director.


Oh I thought that he was confirmed as the director. I don't compare it to the original Manga or Anime as it is easily diffrerent.
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Actually, this movie is quite do-able and could turn out very well. Would love to see this live-action work out.
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I do wonder who they will pick to play The Major. Any guesses?

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Gouki, I know I was wrong but the point I was trying to articulate was that there is already a successful pre-existing movie based upon the material

So it should not be to hard to replicate that success
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He was rather convincing in The Last Samurai
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Plus he is a bit of a woman sometimes Razz
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I'll be pretty curious to see who gets cast as the Major, I would hope that they might get an actress who is fairly well respected and perhaps on the +30 side instead of under 30, rather than one of the younger actresses who may be attractive but lack onscreen presence.
I'd be quite disappointed if it went to a Lindsay Lohan type actress and they dumbed down the story too much.
Was Charlize Theron any good in Aeon Flux when that got made into a movie? I've only seen the animated series but she comes to mind as an actress who has a strong presence on screen, experience and obviously is willing to take on projects that aren't standard Hollywood fare.
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I would hope that they might get an actress who is fairly well respected and perhaps on the +30 side


I'd rather see a relative unknown in the role, unknown in the respect that not many people outside of the business know


Travku wrote:

Was Charlize Theron any good in Aeon Flux when that got made into a movie? I


It's not so much Charlize but more the movie itself you have to look at there.
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I'd rather see a relative unknown in the role, unknown in the respect that not many people outside of the business know

Agreed.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Charlize Theron

DEAR GOD NO!!! I will be beyond mad if they cast her... and even though its fairly impossible, if I see any hint that Megan Fox is being considered, I will rampage! Mad
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DEAR GOD NO!!! I will be beyond mad if they cast her... and even though its fairly impossible, if I see any hint that Megan Fox is being considered, I will rampage! Mad

I totally agree about Megan Fox, personally I think she is way over rated, she's just a reasonably physically attractive trailer park girl who has made it onto a couple of big budget films yet I haven't seen any indication of her actually possessing talent really apart from being eyecandy to teenage boys. The fact that she seems to act like a condescending b*tch in real life hasn't helped her reputation either. In 5-10 years Megan Fox will not have a career in acting unless she accepts roles in porn.

The Major has to be cast properly or the whole project will fail imo, that's my reasoning in suggesting an established and versatile actor. I am not necessarily advocating Charlize Theron for the role, I was more curious as to what her performance was like in Aeon Flux and suggesting that a high calibre actor is needed.

It will depend on who does end up directing it and how much Dreamworks are willing to budget for the making of this movie as to who gets cast, I don't think it would be all that good if they bring a whole heap of big names for every role but if they choose a relatively unknown person to play the Major then some quality support cast will be a definite plus.

Geoffery Rush to play Aramaki? (Assuming they go with Western actors)
Jennifer Connelly (might be too old to play the Major now) and I'm guessing that they will need someone in really good physical condition as well.
Milla Jovovich?
Batou - Bruce Willis could do this role well I think.
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I do wonder who they will pick to play The Major. Any guesses?


Summer Glau.

Also, Bruce Willis should be Batou, given he played the exact same character in Surrogates.
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Could be interesting. Just a matter of what storyline they're going to follow. I don't think re-doing the original movie will be too exciting. Laughing man might be good, nothing new to the anime scene, but I think it would appeal to the rest who have never seen it before.

Yeah, Bruce should play Batou.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Summer Glau.

Also, Bruce Willis should be Batou, given he played the exact same character in Surrogates.

i could see that but would have to have bottle caps for eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just a matter of what storyline they're going to follow.

Wikipedia wrote:
As of 2008 DreamWorks acquired the rights to produce a 3-D live action film adaptation of the original manga with Steven Spielberg tipping the scales in DreamWorks favor.

The same premise as the original movie which was adapted from the Manga.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pearl wrote:
The same premise as the original movie which was adapted from the Manga.
It's an adaptation though so it may be far from the original premise by the time it is done.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It's an adaptation though so it may be far from the original premise by the time it is done.
That is Hollywood for you.
As for Ghost in the Shell, it could work, depends who they pick for a cast.
I get the odd feeling if they made one, critics would be making stupid comparissons to the Matrix and all that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Travku wrote:
It's an adaptation though so it may be far from the original premise by the time it is done.

Yes that is expected and they will probably move the setting to Los Angeles.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yes that is expected and they will probably move the setting to Los Angeles.


Los Angeles is a terrible, silly place to set Ghost in the Shell.

See, Los Angeles is a dry place. Virtually no rivers, the town centre is well back from the coast, and the beaches are an afterthought. The Tokyo -- or the Newport -- of Ghost in the Shell is a wet, waterborne place, full of rivers and bays and drainage canals and rain. All sorts of birth metaphors and stuff that you simply cannot do in a film set in Los Angeles.

New York would work. New York's built on a set of islands, it's a good place to set this film. Los Angeles wouldn't, you'd need to reconceptualise the entire aesthetic, and the aesthetic is half the hook.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was just using Los Angeles as an absurd example Nargun - The film could be set any where.

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That is Hollywood for you.

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