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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I almost thought you said you'd seen Cardcaptor Sakura collection 2 for that price for a second there... Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The actual answer to your question probably lies in different levels of compression applied to an episode, and to the textless openings and endings. Less compression was likely needed to fit the short clips on the disc, thus making them appear to be of a higher quality.

Still, it's on a PAL encoded DVD. You're paying for something only a notch above Standard Definition web streaming. You should expect artefacting and lower quality video overall.


Well I don't think either of you are actually understanding what I'm talking about. You see the textless opening and closings are from the HD remaster converted to PAL resolution, but the episodes are just from the old masters, which have artifacts like dirt and scratches on them (from damage to the animation cells) -Not to mention the obvious colour vibrancy difference!

And may I just say that the episodes and the textless opening and closings are the same resolution and that the production of the tv series was in 4:3 and when remastered was kept in that aspect ratio. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
To clear things up.

The masters are from HDCAM tapes. They are the HD masters with no filtering done to them.

We did however have some time to tweak the textless openings and endings That was about all the time we had to be able to do this, hence the colour difference etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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To clear things up.

The masters are from HDCAM tapes. They are the HD masters with no filtering done to them.

We did however have some time to tweak the textless openings and endings That was about all the time we had to be able to do this, hence the colour difference etc.


Ok I understand now, it came down to time constraints.

So Slykura, will the second set be the same? Or will you have had time to do the filtering on those episodes? 36-70
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And may I just say that the episodes and the textless opening and closings are the same resolution and that the production of the tv series was in 4:3 and when remastered was kept in that aspect ratio. Smile


Yes, but the Blu-Ray masters specifically (as in, the footage from the original remastered footage intended for Blu-Ray authoring) would have been 16:9. 1080p is exclusively a 16:9 resolution (1920x1080, 'true' HD), whilst 1080i can be both widescreen 1920x1080 and 4:3 1440x1080. As is with most 4:3 series that end up on Blu-Ray they just add black bars to the left and right of the image Smile. You'd need to remove that when going back to 4:3 for DVD authoring if you'd been given the Blu-Ray masters, y'know?

As for the filtering, since the show hasn't been completely redrawn (like Serial Experiments Lain), wouldn't it be totally coolies to leave the artefacting from the old masters in there for the actual episodes? I think the filtering was the only complaint most individuals had for Madman's release of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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To clear things up.

The masters are from HDCAM tapes. They are the HD masters with no filtering done to them.

We did however have some time to tweak the textless openings and endings That was about all the time we had to be able to do this, hence the colour difference etc.


Ah ok, so you actually used the original masters that were used to create the Japanese BD's? Rather than say, using the 'remastered' 1080p files?
The aspect ratio of the HDCAM tapes would have been native 4x3 then?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ah ok, so you actually used the original masters that were used to create the Japanese BD's? Rather than say, using the 'remastered' 1080p files?
The aspect ratio of the HDCAM tapes would have been native 4x3 then?


One would hope, although I do remember 'Blu-Ray masters' being mentioned a few times previously.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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One would hope, although I do remember 'Blu-Ray masters' being mentioned a few times previously.


Yeah it's a little misleading. Most of the debate would have probably been avoided if the term 'HD masters' was used from the outset rather than 'Blu-Ray masters'. Oh well, what's done is done.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah it's a little misleading. Most of the debate would have probably been avoided if the term 'HD masters' was used from the outset rather than 'Blu-Ray masters'. Oh well, what's done is done.


Well yeah...... thats pretty much my point.....

The textless openings and closings are done in the same way the Blu-ray masters are with the vibrant colours and filtering, and the episodes themselves are done without.

And they all came from HD masters.

Sooo Weird..... Confused

Its still strange they advertise it remastered video when only the textless openings and closings qualify as being advertised as that!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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oh by the way, you will eventually be able to buy CCS in HD off itunes


Any word on when?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So I uh, just finished watching this... Any hope for the Movies Madman?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So I uh, just finished watching this... Any hope for the Movies Madman?


Good question. Surely it will be a yes, Madman.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think I meant to post this post here. I completely missed this thread in the search results.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
NIS America is releasing the complete series across 9 BDs in a single Premium Edition set for $249.99. It includes a 76-page artbook.

There's also a standard three-set DVD release.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Out of curiosity. Who here would double dip and purchase a dual language BD set if we were to release it?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Out of curiosity. Who here would double dip and purchase a dual language BD set if we were to release it?


I would!

I was about to buy the DVDs although after seeing a post that it will be released in NA on Bluray this morning I decided to hold off.


Having said that, I'd much prefer to buy it from you guys! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd probably buy again. Dual language would be good, even if it's the suspected Animax dub. Blu-ray would be even better. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Out of curiosity. Who here would double dip and purchase a dual language BD set if we were to release it?


I probably would buy it in 2015 at the earliest. Kind balancing the finances at the moment.

I would rather prefer a barebones release that minimised costs to us.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I certainly would! BD and dual audio would make that release perfect, I'd have the Japanese for general viewing and the English for nostalgia trips, and it would be in sweet HD! ^_^

EDIT: Just finding out now it's using the Animax dub, there goes the nostalgia. I would buy on blu-ray regardless, but dual audio dvd with Animax would probably be a no-go for me.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Out of curiosity. Who here would double dip and purchase a dual language BD set if we were to release it?


Blu-Ray? I'd be seriously tempted. I didn't get Madman's release because I managed to pick up the R1 version many moons ago. I'm not going to double dip to go from DVD to DVD. Upgrade to BD... that's another story.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd probably consider it, I actually haven't bought the second DVD volume yet, I was going to soon though. If Madman were to do a Blu release, I'd hold off.

Presentation wise, if it were duel audio, would the parts that were cut just be silent on the english track?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BTW our current DVD release is actually based on the Remastered HD/BD masters from Japan if that's not reason enough to double dip Wink


IF and IF we were to do this, the BD English audio is completely uncut as it's been confirmed NIS are using the Animax dub, not the Nelvana one.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Missed the part in Sly's inital post referring to Blu-ray, and though it was just DVD. If it was Blu, I would definitely buy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Out of curiosity. Who here would double dip and purchase a dual language BD set if we were to release it?


I would finally have a reason to buy it from Madman. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would indeed double dip for a dual language blu-ray. Heck, I would possibly even double dip if it was a subs only blu-ray.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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BTW our current DVD release is actually based on the Remastered HD/BD masters from Japan if that's not reason enough to double dip Wink


IF and IF we were to do this, the BD English audio is completely uncut as it's been confirmed NIS are using the Animax dub, not the Nelvana one.


I would love for Madman to get the Nelvana dub and release it on DVD purely for nostalgic purposes. Although I doubt that would ever happen. :'(
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Out of curiosity. Who here would double dip and purchase a dual language BD set if we were to release it?


Try and stop me from double dipping in that situation Razz (Especially because for some reason my Collection 1 has no Disc 1... I legitimately don't remember if it ever came with one but all I know is there is no disc 1 in my set >_> wouldn't mind actually having those episodes Razz)
Although I wouldn't mind a premium style release (kinda like how NISA's approaching it, but with less back-alley-bootleg art, I loved the cover art approach made for your DVDs for the record) but I wouldn't complain if we just got Standard Editions because that'd be cheaper.
I don't really care either way about the dual language to be honest, like I'd watch the dub unless it was godawful (I've heard both good and bad Animax dubs so I'm happy to approach it just like any other dub)- but it wouldn't be the deciding factor.
However would it have a disc-count similar to NISA's? NISA's release seems to have a decent disc count for the BD and I'd be a little cautious in purchasing if it was very much lower. (Like anything below 8 discs and I'd be looking into the releases before buying anything, The 9 that the U.S. is getting seems pretty reasonable to me though)

But anyway: Yes please, I would very much be willing to double dip (as well as a good friend of mine who has stated to me he wants it on BD) especially because your DVD release was a pretty good price so I wouldn't feel like I'm spending too much on the one series
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can't believe people are wanting to support another local release, after how poorly Madman handled the previous releases.

The subtitles on the local DVD releases of Cardcaptor Sakura were far too small, and they never bothered to even fix the audio sync issues either.

Plus Madman couldn't be bothered to include the English dub from Animax, which NIS America has no problems including on their upcoming releases.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I can't believe people are wanting to support another local release, after how poorly Madman handled the previous releases.

The subtitles on the local DVD releases of Cardcaptor Sakura were far too small, and they never bothered to even fix the audio sync issues either.

Plus Madman couldn't be bothered to include the English dub from Animax, which NIS America has no problems including on their upcoming releases.


It is possible that NIS America has had this in the pipeline for a long time now. You also have to remember that they are releasing fewer titles than madman per year.

As for the audio and subtitles, you got used to them after a while Razz. Sentai filmworks has also had problems with their english dubs leaving out WHOLE sentences Razz
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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As for the audio and subtitles, you got used to them after a while Razz.

I found the small subtitles a struggle on a smaller screen (24") from a short distance, and ended up upgrading the size of my screen at the time.

Timesplitter 01 wrote:
Sentai filmworks has also had problems with their english dubs leaving out WHOLE sentences Razz
The scripts for English dubs are frequently different, compared to English subtitles for original Japanese versions. Which is why I rarely watch any English dubs anymore.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just to clarify, is the Animax dub the one they used for the Second CCS movie?
I would probably double dip as I generally prefer dubs. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chii_123 wrote:
Just to clarify, is the Animax dub the one they used for the Second CCS movie?
I would probably double dip as I generally prefer dubs. Smile


The second movie hasn't been released (or announced?) yet.
We're getting the first movie next month and I'm fairly certain it's Japanese Audio only
EDIT: Correction, I just checked, the first film is listed to have English audio
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I have Geneon's release of both movies; the first movie's dub is edited like the TV series. I listened to 5 seconds of it and turned it off.

The second movie however, the dub is fairly decent; Kari Wahlgren does Sakura's voice (she kinda sounds like a less savage Kagami). It's uncut from what I can tell; they even left in Sakura's "ho~e"s.
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Is there any news that Madman will bring over the Limited bluray release to Aus?
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No news. Madman hasn't brought over any of NISA's products, so it's not really a given. There's the possibility that the Blu-ray of the first movie may be licensed by Madman sometime next year, after Discotek releases it in the US, though.

As for the second movie, I hope Madman are holding off to see what develops in the US with regards to a possible Blu-ray release.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No news. Madman hasn't brought over any of NISA's products, so it's not really a given. There's the possibility that the Blu-ray of the first movie may be licensed by Madman sometime next year, after Discotek releases it in the US, though.

As for the second movie, I hope Madman are holding off to see what develops in the US with regards to a possible Blu-ray release.


There is also that period shortly after NISA announced their release where Madman sort of unofficially-ish mentioned the possibility with absolutely no definite answer or promises.
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Replying here in hopes to spark interest in the topic again. I had thought about importing the NISA blu-rays but honestly it wouldn't be worth it considering i would have to get a new blu-ray player and set it to region A. Is there any hope of madman doing a dual-audio blu-ray release or is it pretty much out the window at this point?
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You can't change the region code on your current player? My Soniq one from JB HiFi lets me swap it when I need to with a button combo input and its 3 years old.
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I have a PS3 so I don't think it works to change it. Probably should buy a new one anyway though.
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Ah, yeah they aren't able to be changed. It is worth getting a standalone to region change for any import titles that may not make it over here.
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I purchased a second player for Region A BD for <$150 @ JB, works like a charm.
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...the manga-bundled prologue for the Clear Card Arc HAS ENGLISH SUBTITLES!
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Funimation has the new 2018 season - Trailer

EDIT: with an english dub I should add!
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Yeah I'd buy a Blu Ray set of CCS if they did one, duel language would be nice too.
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